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Would Dwayne 'The Rock' Johnson be considered fat in Korea?
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Would 'The Rock' be called fat?
yes
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no
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a little bit fat
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tex1982



Joined: 01 Mar 2007
Location: ROK

PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 6:42 pm    Post subject: Would Dwayne 'The Rock' Johnson be considered fat in Korea? Reply with quote

I'm called fat on a fairly regular basis by my students, and even a co-worker once. I'm 6'1 and about 200 lbs, or 184 cm and 90 kilograms. I'm pretty active, work out regularly, etc, and have no beer-belly whatsoever.

I'm just wondering, are muscles and broad shoulders such an alien thing here in Korea that anything other than stick figure=fat? Or, is it just that some Koreans, given limited English ability say fat when they mean big or athletic?

Also, perhaps in an effort to boost my damaged ego, I'd like responses to the poll question. He's taller, but also weighs significantly more than I.

BTW, I'm not saying I look like him, but I'm trying to get a good idea of the general definition of 'fat' in Korea.
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Funky Chunk



Joined: 29 Sep 2007
Location: Haebangchon, Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a kid call me fat once. My response was "So what? I'm cute and I get paid to be here. Your parents make you come here and you look like Neville Longbottom." The rest of the kids laughed at him and said "Teacher is cute! Your English name Neville!"

I was entertained and the kid kept his rude comments to himself after that.
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Rapacious Mr. Batstove



Joined: 26 Jan 2007
Location: Central Areola

PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 7:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Would Dwayne 'The Rock' Johnson be considered fat in Kor Reply with quote

tex1982 wrote:
I'm called fat on a fairly regular basis by my students, and even a co-worker once. I'm 6'1 and about 200 lbs, or 184 cm and 90 kilograms. I'm pretty active, work out regularly, etc, and have no beer-belly whatsoever.

I'm just wondering, are muscles and broad shoulders such an alien thing here in Korea that anything other than stick figure=fat? Or, is it just that some Koreans, given limited English ability say fat when they mean big or athletic?

Also, perhaps in an effort to boost my damaged ego, I'd like responses to the poll question. He's taller, but also weighs significantly more than I.

BTW, I'm not saying I look like him, but I'm trying to get a good idea of the general definition of 'fat' in Korea.


I'm 90kg at 179cm. Not one of my 1600+ students have ever called me fat. I get 'teacher, body good' regularly. Never been called fat.

Maybe your kid's are just fucked up. Or perhaps there's something about you that Koreans associate with being fat, even though you aren't.
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tex1982



Joined: 01 Mar 2007
Location: ROK

PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 7:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Would Dwayne 'The Rock' Johnson be considered fat in Kor Reply with quote

Rapacious Mr. Batstove wrote:
tex1982 wrote:
I'm called fat on a fairly regular basis by my students, and even a co-worker once. I'm 6'1 and about 200 lbs, or 184 cm and 90 kilograms. I'm pretty active, work out regularly, etc, and have no beer-belly whatsoever.

I'm just wondering, are muscles and broad shoulders such an alien thing here in Korea that anything other than stick figure=fat? Or, is it just that some Koreans, given limited English ability say fat when they mean big or athletic?

Also, perhaps in an effort to boost my damaged ego, I'd like responses to the poll question. He's taller, but also weighs significantly more than I.

BTW, I'm not saying I look like him, but I'm trying to get a good idea of the general definition of 'fat' in Korea.


I'm 90kg at 179cm. Not one of my 1600+ students have ever called me fat. I get 'teacher, body good' regularly. Never been called fat.

Maybe your kid's are just fucked up. Or perhaps there's something about you that Koreans associate with being fat, even though you aren't.


Weird. I dunno most of the other teachers at my school are somewhat shorter, and in some cases rail-thin, so maybe the students are comparing me to them?
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Rapacious Mr. Batstove



Joined: 26 Jan 2007
Location: Central Areola

PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tell them that they have 'big faces'. Girls especially hate that. And it's not like calling them a little fucker either.

Kids, who call each other names need to be called on it. I even have some dumbass kids point to other student and say 'Teacher, he is pig' as if they expect me to agree??!!

If that happens I either get the four nearest boys around the name caller to punch him a few times or tell him he has an ugly/big face.

I really hate catty name calling. Even more than kids not bringing a pen to class.
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Bibbitybop



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rapacious Mr. Batstove wrote:
Tell them that they have 'big faces'. Girls especially hate that. And it's not like calling them a little fucker either.

Kids, who call each other names need to be called on it. I even have some dumbass kids point to other student and say 'Teacher, he is pig' as if they expect me to agree??!!

If that happens I either get the four nearest boys around the name caller to punch him a few times or tell him he has an ugly/big face.

I really hate catty name calling. Even more than kids not bringing a pen to class.


I learned that "pig" and "piggy" aren't as derogatory as back home. Koreans like pigs, they think they are cute. The put pigs heads outside of new business and on graves out of respect. They do associate pigs with fat kids, but it's not as bad as it seems. I even had one teacher say "she's a little piggy" about a girl with the girl right there. The girl said "no, teacher is a piggy!" and they both laughed.
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Rapacious Mr. Batstove



Joined: 26 Jan 2007
Location: Central Areola

PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bibbitybop wrote:
Rapacious Mr. Batstove wrote:
Tell them that they have 'big faces'. Girls especially hate that. And it's not like calling them a little fucker either.

Kids, who call each other names need to be called on it. I even have some dumbass kids point to other student and say 'Teacher, he is pig' as if they expect me to agree??!!

If that happens I either get the four nearest boys around the name caller to punch him a few times or tell him he has an ugly/big face.

I really hate catty name calling. Even more than kids not bringing a pen to class.


I learned that "pig" and "piggy" aren't as derogatory as back home. Koreans like pigs, they think they are cute. The put pigs heads outside of new business and on graves out of respect. They do associate pigs with fat kids, but it's not as bad as it seems. I even had one teacher say "she's a little piggy" about a girl with the girl right there. The girl said "no, teacher is a piggy!" and they both laughed.


Fair enough point. But there is nothing cute about middle school boys calling a clinically obese boy 'pig'.

I have a girl call her friend a 'stupid lesbian' the other day. Now, from middle schoolers, THAT was cute Laughing
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genezorm



Joined: 01 Jul 2007
Location: Mokpo

PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

maybe a better question...why does anyone care about dwayne "the rock" johnson

does anyone know if there is a korean work for "stocky" or "burly"? i just think fat gets used a lot because it's easy and everyone knows it
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sirfro



Joined: 01 Dec 2006
Location: Guui-dong...lol

PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 11:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

genezorm wrote:
maybe a better question...why does anyone care about dwayne "the rock" johnson




The Rock is a very cool guy.
His interview with Rove when he came to Australia was great.
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Alyallen



Joined: 29 Mar 2004
Location: The 4th Greatest Place on Earth = Jeonju!!!

PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 12:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Plus he's seriously fucking hot...
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Are they the lemmings



Joined: 15 Feb 2007
Location: Not here anymore. JongnoGuru was the only thing that kept me here.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 4:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wrasslin's not my thing but, I have to admit, the name "The People's Eyebrow" has me in paroxysms of laughter whenever I hear it.
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Treefarmer



Joined: 29 May 2007

PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 4:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

can you smell what the rock is cookin?
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htrain



Joined: 24 May 2007

PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 6:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Korean people are super, super weird about bodyfat, as you already know. I'm like 225lbs at 6'1.. thats' like 186cm and 101kg ... someone called me fat when I got here and I flexed my arm and pulled up the sleeve. The kids went absolutely crazy screaming. If you've got big arms, do this. The kids will ask you to see it every day, then you say "If you do your work, now sit down." Talk about a MAJOR ego booster, 12 year olds want me. (This is a joke -before someone flames me.)

It's also in how you dress. If you don't tuck in your shirt/show your waist... it will hide your taper and they think you're as big around as your shoulders are.

Also, as you dudes probably know... back in America or Canada if a fat slob wears a wifebeater, it's fully accepted... but if a jacked dude does, he's an arrogant ass or "GAY." It's not like that here... don't be afraid to 'show off' a bit and wear some tighter fitting professional looking clothes.
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Kenny Kimchee



Joined: 12 May 2003

PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 8:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

According to the BMI index, Evander Holyfield would have been overweight (and almost obese) in the prime of his career.

http://www.nhlbisupport.com/bmi/

Holyfield was 6'2" and 221lbs. during his fighting career, giving him a BMI of 28.4

I ask you, does this man look obese?

http://www.solarnavigator.net/sport/sport_images/evander_holyfield_caesars_palace.jpg
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sirfro



Joined: 01 Dec 2006
Location: Guui-dong...lol

PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kenny Kimchee wrote:
According to the BMI index...


The BMI index isn't remotely accurate for reading body fat.
The Caliper method is better and quite easy to do.

http://new-fitness.com/body_fat_analyzing.html
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