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Tiberious aka Sparkles
Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: I'm one cool cat!
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| khyber wrote: |
so i rented hanibal, anxiously waiting the "let's eat his brainy brain" scene. Much to my chagrin, it was blobbed...i mean, enough was implicit.....what the hell could i have really missed?
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I actually found the "blobbed" brain-eating scene more disturbing than if I watched it for the first time and could see everything. For me, what's implied is often worse than what's really there.
And as for Resevoir Dogs being edited in Korea, I believe the only scene that's deleted is the part where Michael Madsen's character (is it Mr. Blond?) cuts off the police officer's ear and starts speaking into it. The part where he cuts the ear off is still intact ( pan away: another scene where less is more), but they deleted the part where he's actually holding the ear and speaking into it. Just thought I'd clarify. At least that's how it was when I rented it last year. |
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rasta man
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| Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2003 9:40 pm Post subject: |
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what about "Monsters Ball"? Has it come out here? Saw it the states then when it hit Bangkok the papers there were clamoring for the uncut version. Do they want to see Billy Bob?
Did see the Koreanized versions of "Pulp Fiction" and "Resevior Dogs" man the Koreans butchered them  thats why I ordered the videos from the US and had them sent.
Now if I ever teach kids again I can teach them colors using "Resevior Dogs"  |
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Wishmaster
Joined: 06 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2003 1:58 am Post subject: |
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| Yeah, Pulp Fiction is one of the greatest movies of all time but don't rent it here...you will be sorely disappointed. I believe that they also cut out the "Jimmy" scene..y'know, "Dead*&^%% storage". At least they did with the version that I rented here. |
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The Bobster
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2003 4:35 am Post subject: |
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I saw "Monster's Ball" last week and I was surprised that certain parts were not snipped (ouch! wrong word ...). I think more was shown that is common in Korean porn.
Uh, not that The Bobster ever watches Korean porn ... I mean to say what others have told me about Korean porn. Like that degenerate Beckerson, for instance ...
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exportedhabster
Joined: 10 Feb 2003
Location: Suwon
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| Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2003 5:01 am Post subject: |
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| I was watching Basic Instinct on OCN (I think) and they showed most of the sex scene between Douglas and Stone, the only part they cut was when she picked up the ice pick and freed him from the bed with it. I thought it was a strange cut. Sex is okay, but an ice pick isn't (there wasn't any violence in that scene). I guess it was for time, but it was a strange cut. |
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dogbert
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: Killbox 90210
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| Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2003 5:57 am Post subject: |
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| No, "Basic Instinct" on OCN has been heavily cut. However, the "Basic Instinct" DVD sold in Korea is uncut. |
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Zyzyfer
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: who, what, where, when, why, how?
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| Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2003 4:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Speaking of DVDs, are they usually uncensored here? |
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vlcupper
Joined: 12 Aug 2004
Location: Gangnam
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| Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 5:45 am Post subject: |
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| exportedhabster wrote: |
| I was watching Basic Instinct on OCN (I think) and they showed most of the sex scene between Douglas and Stone, the only part they cut was when she picked up the ice pick and freed him from the bed with it. I thought it was a strange cut. Sex is okay, but an ice pick isn't (there wasn't any violence in that scene). I guess it was for time, but it was a strange cut. |
I'm guessing they didn't want the women here to get any ideas.
Korean porn makes me giggle. It's so ridiculous! They dub the girls' voices with squeaking puppies! The guys all wear the same pair of underwear, and they're all two-pump chumps. |
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Zenpickle
Joined: 06 Jan 2004
Location: Anyang -- Bisan
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| Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 5:53 am Post subject: |
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| I don't know if this is true or not, but I remember hearing a while back worries that British censors would cut out the octopus eating scene in "Old Boy." |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 3:08 pm Post subject: |
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I love some of the English to Korean translations:
English: Get yo biatch ass out of here before I fucking *beep* you with this pistol you oozy biatch!
Korean: ga!
(Part of the problem is Korean requires a lot of characters on the screen. Direct translations tend to be very wordy. There's a rule in English to Korean subtitles that only so many words can appear on the screen at any one time. So odd cuts have to be made.) |
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JongnoGuru
Joined: 25 May 2004
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| Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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| mindmetoo wrote: |
I love some of the English to Korean translations:
English: Get yo biatch ass out of here before I *beep* *beep* you with this pistol you oozy biatch!
Korean: ga!
(Part of the problem is Korean requires a lot of characters on the screen. Direct translations tend to be very wordy. There's a rule in English to Korean subtitles that only so many words can appear on the screen at any one time. So odd cuts have to be made.) |
Mindmetoo, all things being equal, it's a far sight easier, quicker, and takes up less screen space going English to hangul than the other direction. It does require workaround after workaround when dealing with language-specific or culture-specific humour & such, though. But by and large, bad hangul subtitling is less a result of inherent problems or limitations in hangul (which is by far more compact than English) than in simply bad, underpaid, or unqualified subtitlers.
Yes, there are standard rules governing number of characters/lines per frame, as well as seconds on screen for each bit of dialogue, but these are not religiously adhered to in many hangul to English subtitling efforts. You should never, for example, see three lines of text at a time, though you often will.
My favourite is when the ajumma is screaming non-stop, running her mouth a mile a minute for, oh, 15~20 seconds, ranting & raving about this & that --- you glance down at the English subtitle, and it says...... "No he didn't." |
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animalbirdfish
Joined: 04 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Saw Ocean's Twelve last week and noticed that they had silenced the 'F' words on the few occasions they were used (by Don Cheadle's character). WTF? I've never seen that before in Korea? I've seen sex and violence cut out, but never had language bleeped. |
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tommynomad
Joined: 24 Jul 2004
Location: on the move
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| Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 4:46 pm Post subject: |
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| vlcupper wrote: |
| Korean porn makes me giggle. It's so ridiculous! They dub the girls' voices with squeaking puppies! The guys all wear the same pair of underwear, and they're all two-pump chumps. |
The zotto/1060 tv shows are totally different. Like a talk show with real sex at the end. Uncut, natural, real. I don't waste my time with bad porn in the west, why would I here? |
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djsmnc
Joined: 20 Jan 2003
Location: Dave's ESL Cafe
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| Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 6:23 pm Post subject: |
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I rented Pulp Fiction one night recently to watch with my girlfriend. I know that movie by heart, and everything was uncut, including the foot massage scene. Maybe I saw a re-released version?
Anyway, my girlfriend only liked the scene where they dance in the restaurant... |
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Gollum
Joined: 04 Sep 2003
Location: Japan
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| Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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DVDs are often censored.
They cut the scene from Mel Gibson's "Braveheart" which shows the princess walking down the hall, happy about being pregnant and in love with Mel's character, but not the sex scene (not that it showed much anyway).
Hmmm.... wife impregnated by a foreigner!
Gosh forbid a woman should be happy about something like that! |
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