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Atavistic



Joined: 22 May 2006
Location: How totally stupid that Korean doesn't show in this area.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 1:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

endo wrote:
Atavistic wrote:
jinju wrote:
Atavistic wrote:
jinju wrote:
This is so simple. A man and a woman cant be friends. Period. The only exception is if the woman is really ugly. Otherwise a man might say he is just a friend, but he would be lying. So, if you are not ugly then he wants to sleep with you. End of story.


What if the man is gay or the woman is a lesbian?


Hmm if he is gay he can HARDLY be considered a MAN...am I wrong?



Yes, you are wrong.

But it certainly fits with your general idiotic statements. 2 points for being consistent.

Endo: I wanted to see what sort of BS Jinju would come up with. The more he talks, the more I think he's a troll.


The man ain't wrong on this one.


And you are obviously a female. That's cool and all, but you slearly don't know how men think. Or how simple out thought are.

Sorry for calling you a moron.


I know how MY male friends think. My STRAIGHT male friends are not homophobic and thus don't call gay men "boys." They call men men.

If the rest of you "men" think that gay men aren't men just because they don't sleep with women, well, that's your issue. I guess things are like that on planet Jinju. I'm just glad that the people I choose to associate with--aren't from planet Jinju (or his fuk buddy planet Tony Baloney, for that matter).
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pkang0202



Joined: 09 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 1:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Umm... You can stay in my flat and I don't have a girlfriend.
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endo



Joined: 14 Mar 2004
Location: Seoul...my home

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 2:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No I was refering to Jinju's assertion that the idea that men and women simply cannot be friend.

The idea that gay men are not men is retarted.

However, what I think Jinju was refering to (at least I hope) was that homosexual men aren't what he was getting at when questioning the idea that men and women can be truely friends. Basically he wasn't questioning if they were literaly men, but instead he was questioning their manhood.



But serously when society defines its ideal image of a man, it's basically a heterosexual alpha male.

Now the gay men that I've met in my life have been for the most part cool. I respect them not for their sexuality but their personality.

But at the same time they do take it (if you know what I mean) and it's just hard to see them as real men.

However, I feel the same way about men who have primarly feminen characteristics. Gay or straight.
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the_beaver



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 2:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It makes me wonder what has happened to the world when I see a whole message board of guys cock blocking this poor dude in San Diego.
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jinju



Joined: 22 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 2:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Atavistic wrote:
I know how MY male friends think.


No, you know what they WANT you to know. Which is totally different from how they really think. Perhaps you think Im calling you ugly, but cheer up, your friends havent made a move just yet.

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My STRAIGHT male friends are not homophobic and thus don't call gay men "boys." They call men men.


I didnt call them men. Or boys. I said they arent male.

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If the rest of you "men" think that gay men aren't men just because they don't sleep with women


Bingo...now youre catching on.

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well, that's your issue. I guess things are like that on planet Jinju.


Heres the low down, THIS is planet jinju.

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I'm just glad that the people I choose to associate with--aren't from planet Jinju


Its actually the OTHER way around.
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SuperHero



Joined: 10 Dec 2003
Location: Superhero Hideout

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 2:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jinju wrote:
This is so simple. A man and a woman cant be friends. Period. The only exception is if the woman is really ugly. Otherwise a man might say he is just a friend, but he would be lying. So, if you are not ugly then he wants to sleep with you. End of story.

I agree with this. But I also agree with the quote below
the_beaver wrote:
It makes me wonder what has happened to the world when I see a whole message board of guys *beep* blocking this poor dude in San Diego.
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jinju



Joined: 22 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 2:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

endo wrote:
No I was refering to Jinju's assertion that the idea that men and women simply cannot be friend.

The idea that gay men are not men is retarted.

However, what I think Jinju was refering to (at least I hope) was that homosexual men aren't what he was getting at when questioning the idea that men and women can be truely friends. Basically he wasn't questioning if they were literaly men, but instead he was questioning their manhood.



Yes, but then she went off on a tangent and its much more fun to let her spiral off on that tangent. I love to watch a good tantrum.
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Czarjorge



Joined: 01 May 2007
Location: I now have the same moustache, and it is glorious.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 2:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I ignored this thread until I saw that jinju was replying to it.

Wow, just... Wow.
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jinju



Joined: 22 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 2:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Czarjorge wrote:
I ignored this thread until I saw that jinju was replying to it.

Wow, just... Wow.


Love me or hate me, I give a thread cache:)
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Xerxes



Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Location: Down a certain (rabbit) hole, apparently

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 2:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

More like shit, just plain, everyday, garden-variety shit.

But shit's useful, for other things.
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eui.yun



Joined: 31 Jul 2007

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 4:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

haha thanks y'all for the honest info. I was inwardly denying that not ALL guys could be like that.... but I was wrong again gahhhh!!!!! Evil or Very Mad I truly have the worst luck with guys even those that I thought were friends! I seriously think I should just turn into a lesbian now.
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mateomiguel



Joined: 16 May 2005

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 4:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the_beaver wrote:
It makes me wonder what has happened to the world when I see a whole message board of guys *beep* blocking this poor dude in San Diego.


Well if knowledge that he wants to get all tingly with eui.yun is enough to turn her off to him, then it probably wasn't going to work out without a loooot of jack daniels.
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jinju



Joined: 22 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 4:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

eui.yun wrote:
haha thanks y'all for the honest info. I was inwardly denying that not ALL guys could be like that.... but I was wrong again gahhhh!!!!! Evil or Very Mad I truly have the worst luck with guys even those that I thought were friends! I seriously think I should just turn into a lesbian now.


I dont get this. What good is a guy who doesnt want to sleep with you anyway? What do you want a guy who is just a friend for? For shopping and gabbing? Cant you find a girl friend for that?
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Atavistic



Joined: 22 May 2006
Location: How totally stupid that Korean doesn't show in this area.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 5:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

endo wrote:
No I was refering to Jinju's assertion that the idea that men and women simply cannot be friend.


I didn't address that at all.

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The idea that gay men are not men is retarted.


THAT is what I was disagreeing with Jinju on.
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Masta_Don



Joined: 17 Aug 2006
Location: Hyehwa-dong, Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

eui.yun wrote:
haha thanks y'all for the honest info. I was inwardly denying that not ALL guys could be like that.... but I was wrong again gahhhh!!!!! Evil or Very Mad I truly have the worst luck with guys even those that I thought were friends! I seriously think I should just turn into a lesbian now.


But it doesn't mean that's all he wanted. I'm sure if you have no feelings for him and he has a girlfriend, that the two of you could still have a fun time without anything erupting. It's easily done. Just becuz he might like that to happen, doesn't mean that if it doesn't he won't have enjoyed himself with you.

Myself, I don't think it's ever quite worked out like that. A week with nothing going on and then all of a sudden, after a short night of drinking, whoops. That's how it always ends up but I'm sure there are people who are different than me out there.
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