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Julius

Joined: 27 Jul 2006
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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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You have to weigh off making coin vs having a good experience.
Invariably making good cash does not go hand in hand with being in a friendly country. |
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Fishead soup
Joined: 24 Jun 2007 Location: Korea
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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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| The United Arab Emirates is a good choice. Its pretty Kafir friendly. If you live in Dubai there are tons of bars. Its no problem drinking there. The moneys good. You make about the same as Korea. They provide nice spacious housing. Lots of great Indian restaurants. A big expat scene with a lot of crazy drunk Brits. Lots of Russian hookers too. |
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oxfordstu

Joined: 28 Aug 2004 Location: Bangkok
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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 9:37 pm Post subject: |
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I taught in Thailand for a year after my year of hagwon hell here in Korea. I considered it my reward for surviving at a hagwon.
The pay sucks, but the hours are mostly low and the students were wonderful. The Thai administrators are illogical jackasses, but you get that everywhere. One of the best years of my life. |
Thinking about there....
The money's low but is that low by Western standards?....
Can you live comfortably from what you make? |
I was making 30k baht a month, and no, it was not enough to live on. Add to the fact that inflation went up 20% in the time I was there and it's even worse. But I didn't care because my life was significantly better than when I was in Korea. |
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renzobenzo1
Joined: 08 Sep 2007 Location: Suji, Yongin
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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 9:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Fishead soup wrote: |
| The United Arab Emirates is a good choice. Its pretty Kafir friendly. If you live in Dubai there are tons of bars. Its no problem drinking there. The moneys good. You make about the same as Korea. They provide nice spacious housing. Lots of great Indian restaurants. A big expat scene with a lot of crazy drunk Brits. Lots of Russian hookers too. |
sounds tempting.
how's the culture shock in that place? |
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Fishead soup
Joined: 24 Jun 2007 Location: Korea
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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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| renzobenzo1 wrote: |
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| The United Arab Emirates is a good choice. Its pretty Kafir friendly. If you live in Dubai there are tons of bars. Its no problem drinking there. The moneys good. You make about the same as Korea. They provide nice spacious housing. Lots of great Indian restaurants. A big expat scene with a lot of crazy drunk Brits. Lots of Russian hookers too. |
sounds tempting.
how's the culture shock in that place? |
In some ways its better than Korea and in some ways its worse. The one thing that gets to you is the Endless "Inshalla's" whenever you need to get something done. The Visa process is insane. I ended up walking around without a passport for three months becouse it took so long to process the visa.
Teaching high school kids is a nightmare. They are extremly badly behaved and they cheat on all their exams. There's something in Arabic I believe they call it Hafta. meaning knowing someone who can help you out. Whatever you do don't try to get a kid expelled His parence will call the local sheik and you'll be in deep %^$.
The food is way better. |
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Colorado
Joined: 18 Jan 2006 Location: Public School with too much time on my hands.
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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 11:15 pm Post subject: |
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| renzobenzo1 wrote: |
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I taught in Thailand for a year after my year of hagwon hell here in Korea. I considered it my reward for surviving at a hagwon.
The pay sucks, but the hours are mostly low and the students were wonderful. The Thai administrators are illogical jackasses, but you get that everywhere. One of the best years of my life. |
Thinking about there....
The money's low but is that low by Western standards?....
Can you live comfortably from what you make? |
Depends on your definition of "live comfortably." My wife and I lived in the Northeast on 25,000 baht a month. We went out on Friday nights, ate in restaurants three or four nights a week, stayed home a lot too, rented videos, sat on the couch and drank beer with the neighbors. Couldn't save anything, but enjoyed a comfortable, relaxed lifestyle. |
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Kepler
Joined: 24 Sep 2007
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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 9:24 am Post subject: |
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Here's a pretty good comparison between living and teaching in Korea and living and teaching in Vietnam-
http://www.saigonesl.com./forum/viewtopic.php?t=186
I notice that one of the posters in that thread recently became rather infamous on this board. |
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Czarjorge

Joined: 01 May 2007 Location: I now have the same moustache, and it is glorious.
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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 3:14 pm Post subject: |
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Teaching in the U.S. is a bad idea. I was friends at my Uni with three people that went on to become teachers. All three of them say it was a mistake, and they are all very different people. One taught H.S. history and said it was like banging his head against the wall all day, every day. One taught grade school, and between all the supplies she had to buy and the low pay she couldn't afford her rent.
I have one friend still teaching. She teaches third grade at a public school. Her husband is a lawyer, and just made junior partner. She also has to buy stuff for her classes, but she can afford it. Her main complaint, she spends about an hour a day supervising the passing of meds to the various students. The school day is only 7 hours long.
The U.S. is going down the tubes, and one of the main reasons is the backwards nature of our school system. Teachers don't teach, they are babysitters and wardens. I would not teach in the U.S. Ever. |
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nomad-ish

Joined: 08 Oct 2007 Location: On the bottom of the food chain
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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 11:04 pm Post subject: |
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| The United Arab Emirates is a good choice. Its pretty Kafir friendly. If you live in Dubai there are tons of bars. Its no problem drinking there. The moneys good. You make about the same as Korea. They provide nice spacious housing. Lots of great Indian restaurants. A big expat scene with a lot of crazy drunk Brits. Lots of Russian hookers too. |
what about for foreign women? what would i be expected to wear? i don't think i'd be allowed to drive either... what sort of situation would i be looking at over there? |
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buffygrrl1
Joined: 05 Jun 2007 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 12:45 am Post subject: |
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| Fishead soup wrote: |
| The United Arab Emirates is a good choice. Its pretty Kafir friendly. If you live in Dubai there are tons of bars. Its no problem drinking there. The moneys good. You make about the same as Korea. They provide nice spacious housing. Lots of great Indian restaurants. A big expat scene with a lot of crazy drunk Brits. Lots of Russian hookers too. |
what about for foreign women? what would i be expected to wear? i don't think i'd be allowed to drive either... what sort of situation would i be looking at over there? |
from what I have heard of Dubai...it seems to be a very liberal city so I think you can wear whatever you want. I would LOVE a job there. I saw one job where you got a driver and $2,000... |
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Fishead soup
Joined: 24 Jun 2007 Location: Korea
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Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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| The United Arab Emirates is a good choice. Its pretty Kafir friendly. If you live in Dubai there are tons of bars. Its no problem drinking there. The moneys good. You make about the same as Korea. They provide nice spacious housing. Lots of great Indian restaurants. A big expat scene with a lot of crazy drunk Brits. Lots of Russian hookers too. |
what about for foreign women? what would i be expected to wear? i don't think i'd be allowed to drive either... what sort of situation would i be looking at over there? |
You can wear whatever you want. I'm not sure about driving. If you tought there you would only be allowed to teach all girls schools.
The dress code for women is similar to Egypt. No full hijabs are expected however its wise to dress modestly. |
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MissSeoul
Joined: 25 Oct 2006 Location: Somewhere in America
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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 1:11 pm Post subject: |
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Vietnam has one of the most interesting cultures to me in Asia. I love the architecture as well.
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Vietnam is one of the most interesting country to me, I definitely plan to travel Vietnam one day.
Oh, I love PHO the noodle soup. |
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MissSeoul
Joined: 25 Oct 2006 Location: Somewhere in America
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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 1:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Fishead soup wrote: |
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| The United Arab Emirates is a good choice. Its pretty Kafir friendly. If you live in Dubai there are tons of bars. Its no problem drinking there. The moneys good. You make about the same as Korea. They provide nice spacious housing. Lots of great Indian restaurants. A big expat scene with a lot of crazy drunk Brits. Lots of Russian hookers too. |
what about for foreign women? what would i be expected to wear? i don't think i'd be allowed to drive either... what sort of situation would i be looking at over there? |
You can wear whatever you want. I'm not sure about driving. If you tought there you would only be allowed to teach all girls schools.
The dress code for women is similar to Egypt. No full hijabs are expected however its wise to dress modestly. |
You have to cover your skin ( arms/legs ) except your face. |
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bassexpander
Joined: 13 Sep 2007 Location: Someplace you'd rather be.
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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 2:13 pm Post subject: |
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| I wonder how a spandex flesh-colored suit would go over in a place like Egypt? You're covering your body... |
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4 months left

Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 1:01 am Post subject: |
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| Brazil - heaven on earth...the anti-Korea in every way. |
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