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What should we start demanding when schools become desperate
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What should teachers expect after the new rules make finding a teacher difficult for schools and recruiters?
A higher monthly wage
31%
 31%  [ 19 ]
An increased monthly housing allowance
3%
 3%  [ 2 ]
A signing bonus
6%
 6%  [ 4 ]
All of the above
45%
 45%  [ 28 ]
Other (please specify)
13%
 13%  [ 8 ]
Total Votes : 61

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bassexpander



Joined: 13 Sep 2007
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 3:53 pm    Post subject: What should we start demanding when schools become desperate Reply with quote

I think all of us agree that finding a legal E-2 teacher in this country will become pretty difficult once the new rules go into effect. Perhaps we, as teachers, should plan what we will start asking for to sign.

My vote is for a higher housing allowance per month.

Please vote and discuss.
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The Perfect Cup of Coffee



Joined: 17 Jun 2007

PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd say a higher monthly wage as well as a higher monthly housing allowance. To be honest, a signing bonus is nice, but not high on my priorities. Housing costs are way out of whack with some of the 300-350k allowances given by some schools.
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lowpo



Joined: 01 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Perfect Cup of Coffee wrote:
I'd say a higher monthly wage as well as a higher monthly housing allowance. To be honest, a signing bonus is nice, but not high on my priorities. Housing costs are way out of whack with some of the 300-350k allowances given by some schools.


Higher salary and a signing bonus for resigning for another year.
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nomad-ish



Joined: 08 Oct 2007
Location: On the bottom of the food chain

PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i would say a longer paid vacation... i came to korea to make some money to travel, but i hardly have any time off (14 days/year total for me).

if i decide go hang around another year i'll ask for more money and vacation (if the vac is good then i'll compromise the money part)
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aarontendo



Joined: 08 Feb 2006
Location: Daegu-ish

PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Speaking as a public school teacher, I'd love to see more vacation time. Seeing as how we have nothing to do many of those weeks while students are away, it'd be a great idea to entice native teachers with additional paid holiday.

After all, they're already paying us for that time. This would literally cost them NOTHING. And would make the job a hell of a lot better (to me at least).
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waynehead



Joined: 18 Apr 2006
Location: Jongno

PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I voted for higher pay, but I agree with the two previous posts. I'm a public school teacher, too, and I have 14 days a year. That's not bad IMO, but it could be better, too. 20 days would be sweet, I could take a two week break during summer and in winter.
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nomad-ish



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

aarontendo wrote:

After all, they're already paying us for that time. This would literally cost them NOTHING. And would make the job a hell of a lot better (to me at least).


EXACTLY. instead of those approx 1-2 weeks, after camps, in the summer and winter that we sit around in school and do nothing, having it off would encourage more foreigners to apply for public school positions, and maybe the board could be a little bit more choosey then. it's a win-win situation
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indytrucks



Joined: 09 Apr 2003
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 5:44 pm    Post subject: Re: What should we start demanding when schools become despe Reply with quote

bassexpander wrote:
I think all of us agree that finding a legal E-2 teacher in this country will become pretty difficult once the new rules go into effect.


I don't understand this statement.
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littlelisa



Joined: 12 Jun 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also voted for higher pay, but I would love more paid vacation time. If I could change ONE thing with my current school/contract, it would be that. I only have 10 days paid vacation, plus holidays.
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lowpo



Joined: 01 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 6:05 pm    Post subject: Re: What should we start demanding when schools become despe Reply with quote

indytrucks wrote:
bassexpander wrote:
I think all of us agree that finding a legal E-2 teacher in this country will become pretty difficult once the new rules go into effect.


I don't understand this statement.

Some public schools are offering more vacation time now.
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mrsquirrel



Joined: 13 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you are all mistaken.

It's not going to get harder at all. Not for the schools. The same people will jump through the extra hoops because they want to be here and make the dollars.

What I think you will find is people staying at their current jobs more.
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Boodleheimer



Joined: 10 Mar 2006
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

vacation vacation vacation.

and planning ahead. i'd really like some planning ahead.
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crusher_of_heads



Joined: 23 Feb 2007
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KWhitehead wrote:
vacation vacation vacation.

and planning ahead. i'd really like some planning ahead.


Vacation-I think it wil be up to us individually to put the squeeze on for vacation-I cannot see public schools going down the road-I would say a huge signing bonus.

as far as more planning head it's nice to dream


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Boodleheimer



Joined: 10 Mar 2006
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mrsquirrel wrote:
I think you are all mistaken.

It's not going to get harder at all. Not for the schools. The same people will jump through the extra hoops because they want to be here and make the dollars.

What I think you will find is people staying at their current jobs more.


don't rain on our parade with your common sense.
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mrsquirrel



Joined: 13 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KWhitehead wrote:
mrsquirrel wrote:
I think you are all mistaken.

It's not going to get harder at all. Not for the schools. The same people will jump through the extra hoops because they want to be here and make the dollars.

What I think you will find is people staying at their current jobs more.


don't rain on our parade with your common sense.


Seen it last year in Thailand.

It created a sort of teacher shortage but the places were filled by non-native speakers.

They relaxed the rules after a year and too many complaints and questions.
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