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thepeel
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Che is my hero? I'm not on the left dude. Bad is bad, regardless of your political leanings.
The Plame affair will be bigger than you can imagine. A sitting American President committing treason. A non-starter. yeah. |
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jinju
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| Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 9:57 pm Post subject: |
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| A non-starter is right. Treason? Talk about hyperbole. The issue will go nowhere because it has no gas. Deal with it, Che. |
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thepeel
Joined: 08 Aug 2004
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| Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 10:03 pm Post subject: |
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Treason: a crime that undermines the offender's government.
Bush outed a spy. While President. That is treason. It is a perfectly acceptable use of the word. Get used to it, Adolf. |
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contrarian
Joined: 20 Jan 2007
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| Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 10:39 pm Post subject: |
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peel;
Outing a spy, which Bush didn't do, is not treason. It is at most a rather minor offence. |
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keane
Joined: 09 Jul 2007
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| Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 1:45 am Post subject: |
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| contrarian wrote: |
| It is at most a rather minor offence. |
It is a FEDERAL offense, taken very seriously and punished heavily.
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the Intelligence Identity Protection Act � was passed in 1982.
Since then, any government official with access to classified information who discloses the identity of a covert agent without authorization is subject to 10 years in prison and $50,000 in fines. |
Prison for Bush, Cheney, et al.? His Daddy's law.
Here's some more. Note the bolded.
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In fact, the man seen by the U.S. government as one of the most notorious traitors of the 20th century sees the behavior of the alleged White House leaker in a negative light, even though he theoretically has no problem with outing intelligence officers.
"Of course there is a big difference between the naming of Ambassador Wilson's wife as a CIA operative under cover from my motivations and the motivations of all the many people I was working with in the 1970s," he says. "Our purpose was political � was to try to put a stop to the dirty work, and this case � it was simply dirty."
Agee says his intention was to disrupt � not harm � the lives of CIA agents. |
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contrarian
Joined: 20 Jan 2007
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| Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 1:53 am Post subject: |
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| Clinton committed perjury which nets about 15 years naxinun |
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keane
Joined: 09 Jul 2007
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| Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 1:57 am Post subject: |
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| contrarian wrote: |
| Clinton committed perjury which nets about 15 years naxinun |
Yes, you're right: let's change the subject. Always the best tactic when proven wrong. |
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thepeel
Joined: 08 Aug 2004
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| Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 1:59 am Post subject: |
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| contrarian wrote: |
| Clinton committed perjury which nets about 15 years naxinun |
Interesting. I pick up two pieces of nonsense in that:
1) Dishonesty about a BJ is morally equivalent to outing a spy, telling lies to get into war etc etc etc.
2) Two wrongs make a right. Clinton did it, and therefore so can we. |
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contrarian
Joined: 20 Jan 2007
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| Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 2:00 am Post subject: |
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keane:
I do believe you changed the subject. Bush/Clinton who cares. A 90% cahnce of ne election? Your are joking. |
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keane
Joined: 09 Jul 2007
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| Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 2:11 am Post subject: |
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| A 90% cahnce of ne election? Your are joking. |
1. What's "ne?"
2. Another good tactic when getting your brain handed to you is to take a comment out of its context to imply something not said by the originator of the comment. |
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loose_ends
Joined: 23 Jul 2007
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| Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 2:11 am Post subject: |
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| thepeel wrote: |
| contrarian wrote: |
| Clinton committed perjury which nets about 15 years naxinun |
Interesting. I pick up two pieces of nonsense in that:
1) Dishonesty about a BJ is morally equivalent to outing a spy, telling lies to get into war etc etc etc.
2) Two wrongs make a right. Clinton did it, and therefore so can we. |
and that is how people support conspiracy plots without even knowing it.
we??? |
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contrarian
Joined: 20 Jan 2007
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| Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 2:45 am Post subject: |
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The weught of the law says dishonesty about a BJ is worse than outing a CIA agent. That said, I consider Slick Willy Clinton a piece of immoral trailer trash.
The outing of the CIA agent did nit start the war. Saddam the Insane tried a bluff about WMDs and lost. Iraq has been losing ever since.
Raloh Nader's correspondent is somehting of a fool for saying 90% chance of no election, Nader is a doofus for repeating it. The concept is totally absurd. |
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caniff
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caniff
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thepeel
Joined: 08 Aug 2004
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| Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 5:02 am Post subject: |
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| He was in the bag quite early tonight. |
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