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garykasparov
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 Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 1:41 pm Post subject: Two migrant workers injured in immigration crackdown |
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1> http://www.koreaherald.com/
2> National
3> Two migrant workers injured in crackdown (2007.11.27)
Two migrant workers injured in crackdown
Two migrant workers were severely injured as they jumped from a church rooftop to escape a raid by immigration officers on Sunday, the Migrant Worker's House said yesterday.
Immigration officers in Suwon, Gyeonggi Province, raided a Korean-Chinese church during a Thanksgiving's Day service on Sunday and got into a scuffle as they arrested unregistered migrant workers.
Several migrant workers tried to escape by jumping from the rooftop to a neighboring building, according to Kim Hae-sung, pastor and chief of the migrant workers' shelter.
One Chinese migrant worker broke his leg and injured his back while another broke both ankles and an arm. The two are being treated at a hospital in western Seoul.
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blaseblasphemener
Joined: 01 Jun 2006
Location: There's a voice, keeps on calling me, down the road, that's where I'll always be
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| Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 1:44 pm Post subject: |
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>A church service on Thanksgiving
>2 crippled migrants
>One corrupt, derelict Immigration Office
>Korean Spaakling
Priceless |
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garykasparov
Joined: 27 May 2007
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| Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 2:02 pm Post subject: |
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| They have plenty of time to raid a chuch service on Sunday, but not a crooked hagwon? Go figure, eh. |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 4:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Wow. Raiding a church during services? The current administration has just abandoned all pretense at giving a hoot about anything at all. |
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thepeel
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| Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Korea has the right to enforce her immigration laws, even during imaginary friend time. The state is not at all responsible if you injure yourself escaping from law enforcement. |
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ED209
Joined: 17 Oct 2006
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| Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 5:19 pm Post subject: |
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| If only Benny Hinn was there, they could have gotten up and run away again. |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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| thepeel wrote: |
| Korea has the right to enforce her immigration laws, even during imaginary friend time. The state is not at all responsible if you injure yourself escaping from law enforcement. |
What a jerk you have proven to be. And I base this observation on merely one post. |
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igotthisguitar
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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| Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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Raiding a church service on a Sunday? Good God, yah ... that is pretty cheap, low & dirty 
Were they illegal residents?
Just imagine if ALL of China's poor & desperate were to flood Korea under "FREE TRADE".
Hmmmm ... too bad these folks weren't properly "documented"  |
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Vicissitude
Joined: 27 Feb 2007
Location: Chef School
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| Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 10:22 pm Post subject: |
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| thepeel wrote: |
| Korea has the right to enforce her immigration laws, even during imaginary friend time. The state is not at all responsible if you injure yourself escaping from law enforcement. |
Ignorance is bliss. I'm guessing you've never read up on the atrocious ways that Korea's immigration has treated migrant workers in Korea. Let me just tell you, it's not a pretty picture. You don't know the full story behind this case, yet you are sure ready to pass your judgment. How do you know the police didn't come in there with riot gear ready to kick some serious ass? It's been done many times in the past. I've got some video footage if you care to see how they beat people to death. I'd just LOVE to share it with you.
Now, go back and read it again using your imaginary Jack Nicholson accent.
"You can't handle the truth." |
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thepeel
Joined: 08 Aug 2004
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| Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 10:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Sorry, Korea has a right to enforce her immigration laws. |
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Vicissitude
Joined: 27 Feb 2007
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| Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 11:47 pm Post subject: |
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| thepeel wrote: |
| Sorry, Korea has a right to enforce her immigration laws. |
Educate yourself on the matter! It might open up that narrow mind of yours.
BTW, raiding a Church right in the middle of a Sunday Thanksgiving Day service is not exactly very classy. Say, where do you come from? |
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thepeel
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| Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 11:55 pm Post subject: |
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I come from Saudi Arabia.
Now that I have your respect. Immigratoin enforcement have to bust people when they least expect it. While of course I would be 100% opposed to any violence beyond the very least needed (which would likely be none) to apprehend law-breakers, I do not have sympathy for people who try to maintain their illegal status. I do not believe in open borders. Korea can enforce her immigration laws. |
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On the other hand
Joined: 19 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 7:23 am Post subject: |
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| thepeel wrote: |
I come from Saudi Arabia.
Now that I have your respect. Immigratoin enforcement have to bust people when they least expect it. While of course I would be 100% opposed to any violence beyond the very least needed (which would likely be none) to apprehend law-breakers, I do not have sympathy for people who try to maintain their illegal status. I do not believe in open borders. Korea can enforce her immigration laws. |
Agreed. Korea's track record for consistency in law enforcement is spotty indeed, but that has no bearing on whether this particular action was right or wrong. I don't know too many countries, even among the western democracies, who just sit back and let anyone stay in the country as long as they want.
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| even during imaginary friend time |
It kind of breaks my heart to see this happening at a Christmas party, and I would hope that that was the choice of last resort for places to raid. But on the other hand, I don't think you can categorically deny law enforcement officials the right to conduct raids in churches. Otherwise, you're just back to the days of "sancturary", where anyone with clerical connections can run into a church and demand that the police stay out. |
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thepeel
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| Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 7:26 am Post subject: |
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| Well, fellow Albertan, this might be the first time we've agreed on anything. |
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Vicissitude
Joined: 27 Feb 2007
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| Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 12:43 pm Post subject: |
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| On the other hand wrote: |
| thepeel wrote: |
I come from Saudi Arabia.
Now that I have your respect. Immigratoin enforcement have to bust people when they least expect it. While of course I would be 100% opposed to any violence beyond the very least needed (which would likely be none) to apprehend law-breakers, I do not have sympathy for people who try to maintain their illegal status. I do not believe in open borders. Korea can enforce her immigration laws. |
Agreed. Korea's track record for consistency in law enforcement is spotty indeed, but that has no bearing on whether this particular action was right or wrong. I don't know too many countries, even among the western democracies, who just sit back and let anyone stay in the country as long as they want. |
How do you know they wanted to stay in Korea? Do you know how many migrant workers are in Korea trapped because their employers refused to pay them and they cannot afford to go back? Most of the migrant workers would love to go back home, if only they could get the pay they are entitled to under the law. The law doesn't work in the favor of these migrant workers not one little bit. It only works to the benefit of Koreans. Remember that.
I can think of how this scenario could have been. Employer abused, beat and mistreated these workers while withholding their pay and failed to properly document these people. Desperate and fed up, they began to speak up for themselves. So the Korean boss retaliates by reporting them to immigration. This stuff happens all the time. |
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