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ajuma
Joined: 18 Feb 2003
Location: Anywere but Seoul!!
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| plato's republic wrote: |
I'm a little confused about the last sentence in that quote from the immigration service website. What does this mean: "E2 visa holders invited by the Minister of Education don't need to submit criminal record check when you apply for extension of stay at immigration office"???
Who exactly has been invited by the Minister of Education? Public school teachers?
And what happened to Seoulsucker and his BIG meeting with those government big-wigs he was supposed to be reporting back on...?  |
I got the same impression...did PS teachers have to submit a criminal check when they first applied? |
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Hank the Iconoclast
Joined: 08 Oct 2007
Location: Busan
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| Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 1:47 pm Post subject: |
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| December 15th, 2007. That's way too hasty to implement big changes. Maybe it not only has to do with making an example out of foreign teachers as a result of bad events in September and October, but maybe the Korean government is looking to clean up the hagwon private academy scene by forcing schools to shut down by limiting the number of foreign teachers. This will force hagwons to play fair with the foreign teachers Korea gets and force them to follow labor and immigration laws. The government did announce recently that all these new changes do include crackdowns on hagwons. I think Korea does want to correct the hagwon situation and they will do it by limiting the supply of foreign teachers to them as well as increasing control regulation and oversight. |
Aye, I am starting to think this has a lot to do with hagwons. I don't think I will have to go through too much hassle renewing at a public school. |
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fruitcake
Joined: 18 Apr 2004
Location: shinchon
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| Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Hank the Iconoclast wrote: |
| sojourner1 wrote: |
| December 15th, 2007. That's way too hasty to implement big changes. Maybe it not only has to do with making an example out of foreign teachers as a result of bad events in September and October, but maybe the Korean government is looking to clean up the hagwon private academy scene by forcing schools to shut down by limiting the number of foreign teachers. This will force hagwons to play fair with the foreign teachers Korea gets and force them to follow labor and immigration laws. The government did announce recently that all these new changes do include crackdowns on hagwons. I think Korea does want to correct the hagwon situation and they will do it by limiting the supply of foreign teachers to them as well as increasing control regulation and oversight. |
Aye, I am starting to think this has a lot to do with hagwons. I don't think I will have to go through too much hassle renewing at a public school. |
wrong. i teach at a university, but i have to deal with it. An E-2 is an E-2, regardless of where you work. Immigration won't make any distinction. |
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twg
Joined: 02 Nov 2006
Location: Getting some fresh air...
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| Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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| This will force hagwons to play fair with the foreign teachers Korea gets and force them to follow labor and immigration laws. |
Har! Optimism is cute.
What it's going to do is force them to find new ways to cut corners and cheat the teachers out of money. It's also going to force them to pay more bribes to get the local immigration office to look the other way on those guys of tourist visas they hired. And it sure ain't going to be them paying for the visa processing. |
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ewok
Joined: 27 May 2007
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This will not affect hogwans in any severely negative way, nor will it force them to pay higher salaries.... What it WILL do is force all foreigners to have to go through recruiters. Because hogwans will not want to deal with the new complicated visa issues, they will simply never renew a contract, instead hiring a recruiter 2-3 months in advance to have a fresh dancing monkey as soon as the outgoing primate's contract is up. Recruiters will do what they do, and get as many gullible newbies to come as are needed.
It will severely cripple everyone's 'leverage' at work, because hogwon directors will know that the foreigner will not stay next year, so they will be more encouraged to cheat, hold back salaries, break contract details, give sub-standard housing, and generally exploit the foreigner as much as they want. There will be no motivation to keep the foreigner happy.
And, the hogwans that hire illegally will just have more reason to do so. If they can't hire someone legally with the current system, how much more trouble do you think they will have with the new laws?
And you know that Greasy "Mr Kim the Hogwon Owner" is not willing to give up his black Eqqus and his shiny faux-gangster suits just to comply with immigration laws. He will simply ignore the laws and continue pretending to actually work. |
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madowlspeaks
Joined: 07 Dec 2006
Location: Somewhere in time and space
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| Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 2:38 pm Post subject: |
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OH SO HAPPY
 
HAPPY HAPPY JOY JOY
I just got renewed/extended yesterday, with out having to submit anything other than my contractual stuff.
If you have your renewal or extension paperwork, I'd recommend going to immigration ASAP. Just go try and see what happens. That is what I did and it worked. If you don't have your paperwork, try getting your paperwork ASAP |
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fruitcake
Joined: 18 Apr 2004
Location: shinchon
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| Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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| madowlspeaks wrote: |
OH SO HAPPY
HAPPY HAPPY JOY JOY
I just got renewed/extended yesterday, with out having to submit anything other than my contractual stuff.
If you have your renewal or extension paperwork, I'd recommend going to immigration ASAP. Just go try and see what happens. That is what I did and it worked. If you don't have your paperwork, try getting your paperwork ASAP |
you can do this only if your visa will expire within the next two months. that's what I was told. |
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princess
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: soul of Asia
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| Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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| madowlspeaks wrote: |
OH SO HAPPY
HAPPY HAPPY JOY JOY
I just got renewed/extended yesterday, with out having to submit anything other than my contractual stuff.
If you have your renewal or extension paperwork, I'd recommend going to immigration ASAP. Just go try and see what happens. That is what I did and it worked. If you don't have your paperwork, try getting your paperwork ASAP |
What did you need for your renewal? It's been a while since I've renewed. I think it's the contract, your alien card, and passport, right? No more pics? Thanks. |
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