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bacasper



Joined: 26 Mar 2007
PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 8:05 pm    Post subject: Place your bets! Reply with quote
Six months ago, Ron Paul was not even on the betting radar. Three months ago he was listed at 50-1. A month ago he was 12-1. Today he is at 6-1!

http://www.betusa.com/odds/next_us_president_betting_754.html

Get your bets in before the odds go any lower.
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 11:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I don't think I'd put a lot of stock in the wisdom of the people who made those numbers. BILL Clinton is at 300-1 and Arnold Schwarzenegger is at 250-1. Neither are constitutionally eligible for the job.
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bacasper



Joined: 26 Mar 2007
PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 6:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Some people will bet on anything, and awhile back I recall talk of an amendment so that Arnold could run. MY money would not go on Arnold, however.
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ontheway



Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...
PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 8:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Clinton and Shwarzenegger would each need a different amendment to run. Arnold's odds are better than Bill's, and the odds are reasonable: they represent the odds of each of the two different Constitutional amendments required passing in time for either of them to run. Both are close to zero, and therefore, reasonable. Neither is impossible, just close to zero.


Actually, going down the list, all the odds look reasonable given the current facts, although Hillary's odds seem just a tad high. Looks like a good place to bet against Hillary.
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee



Joined: 25 May 2003
PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I would love the chance to bet against Ron Paul. even if I liked him I would still bet against him.
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JMO



Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Location: Daegu
PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Bookies normally know what they are doing, so there must be alot of money going down on Ron Paul. Although I'm not sure how many people bet on this anyway so it might be a relative thing. Maybe related to how passionate his supporters tend to be?
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JMO



Joined: 18 Jul 2006
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 8:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote:
I would love the chance to bet against Ron Paul. even if I liked him I would still bet against him.


i'd say the odds on Ron Paul not becoming president are pretty low..can you even bet on that?
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Kuros



Joined: 27 Apr 2004
PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote:
I would love the chance to bet against Ron Paul. even if I liked him I would still bet against him.


I love what Glenn Reynolds said about him here.

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RON PAUL: He's just terrible, even when -- which is often, once he's off the subject of the war -- I agree with him. His voice is too high, he can't remember who the Kurds are, and he often comes off like a crazy old man in a bus station.

But that's good news, in a way. Paul's doing better than anyone expected. It's abundantly clear that he's not doing it on charisma and rhetorical skill. Which means that libertarian ideas are actually appealing, since Ron Paul isn't. Paul's flaws as a vessel for those ideas prove the ideas' appeal. If they sell with him as the pitchman, they must be really resonating. I suspect Paul himself would agree with this analysis. Er, except maybe the bus station part.


Yeah, he's becoming a hero for the true believer libertarians and Canadians, apparently. Too bad there's so much of an 'crazy old man in a bus station' like quality to him.
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Gopher



Joined: 04 Jun 2005
PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 8:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Kuros wrote:
...a hero for the true believer libertarians and Canadians, apparently.


That is about it. Add young and Idealistic university students to that and you have just identified Ron Paul's base-of-support.

Too bad none of the above have anything at all to say about the Republican primaries, however...Because here is where Ron Paul's future will be decided.

People can start as many internet polls as they like; they can also start threads and spell "revolution" with "LOVE" until the cows come home. But most of them are not registered Republicans.

And how many people here honestly believe that Republican voters will nominate Ron Paul for president? Any takers on that bet?
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Nowhere Man



Joined: 08 Feb 2004
PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 8:51 pm    Post subject: ... Reply with quote
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Too bad none of the above have anything at all to say about the Republican primaries, however...Because here is where Ron Paul's future will be decided.


Couldn't he still run 3rd party?

I think you're safe in laying bets about the GOP nomination, but I don't think his influence necessarily ends there.
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Kuros



Joined: 27 Apr 2004
PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 9:00 pm    Post subject: Re: ... Reply with quote
Nowhere Man wrote:
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Too bad none of the above have anything at all to say about the Republican primaries, however...Because here is where Ron Paul's future will be decided.


Couldn't he still run 3rd party?

I think you're safe in laying bets about the GOP nomination, but I don't think his influence necessarily ends there.


There's been speculation of a Kucinich & Ron Paul ticket, but those two have so much ego between the two of them who knows who be the VP and Prez. Maybe they can govern as a dual Left-Right Presidency. When the Democrats get out of line, Ron Paul gets in their face, and when the Republicans are stonewalling, Kucinich could be released. HA! Its almost worth electing them for the ridiculousness. Oh, wait, I care about my country.

I think a Democrat candidate v Republican candidate v. Bloomberg v. Ron Paul would be fun. The electoral map would end up looking real blue by the end of the election. Laughing
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bacasper



Joined: 26 Mar 2007
PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 11:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
ontheway wrote:
Actually, going down the list, all the odds look reasonable given the current facts, although Hillary's odds seem just a tad high. Looks like a good place to bet against Hillary.

I think you mean too low. She was even money and 7-5 on a couple of other sites.
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