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expat2001

Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 1:47 pm Post subject: having trouble with both the recruiter and consulate |
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Im suppose to start a job this Friday ( JAN 4 ). However , I still havent even had an interview with the Korean Consulate ( KC). I finally called the KC and was told that thye ; KC, have tried to call me in the past to arrange an interview. I then asked , why they didnt try to e mail me. I wasnt even answered. I dont believe them for a second. I was then told the reason it took so long for me to be given an interview time was that I forgot to submit certain pieces of materrial with my application .I told the consulate that I had sent those pieces to Korea , as the recruiter instructed.KC informed that both myself and the recruiter were wrong , and that I must have the pieces before the interview.I ask the KC if they could contact the reruiter , ..I was told Ii have to do it
So I call and e mail the recruiter to tell them what was happenging.I asked the recruitter to sort things out ( which is what they are being paid for). The RECRUITER told me , that I would have to solve this problem
My question is , has anyone out there experienced similar problems??
As I mentioned , Im suppose to start on Jan 4 . However I foresee another 1-2 weeks before I get this mess cleared up and go to Korea
I get the feeling that I will somehow get screwed when Ii arrive in korea , 1-2 weeks late |
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diablo3
Joined: 11 Sep 2004
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Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 2:00 pm Post subject: |
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Well, they asked for multiple contact details and did not use them all. Their fault to not contact you.
Also, if you are worried about all this, maybe you should take this with a grain of salt and just find another job. Remember, you are learning about the process, the school is learning about the process, and the consulate has no idea what they are doing and therefore are learning about the process themselves. Also, if you are worried about being screwed, it probably is your chance to pull out while it is early. |
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expat2001

Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 2:08 pm Post subject: |
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What I failed to mention was that the RECRUITER NOW HAS MY BS AND my Education degree. I f I were to bail , i dont know how id get them back |
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spliff

Joined: 19 Jan 2004 Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand
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Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 2:15 pm Post subject: |
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^ Just it, you'd be kissing those parchments goodbye. But, no one to blame but yourself for sending them them......  |
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diablo3
Joined: 11 Sep 2004
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Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 2:22 pm Post subject: |
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Does this new changed process for E2 visas require you to send original degrees and results? |
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expat2001

Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 2:33 pm Post subject: |
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I was told tha the government only accept the real degrees .Back in nov when i signed .Very few seemed to know what was going on . |
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R. S. Refugee

Joined: 29 Sep 2004 Location: Shangra La, ROK
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Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 2:45 pm Post subject: |
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expat2001 wrote: |
What I failed to mention was that the RECRUITER NOW HAS MY BS AND my Education degree. I f I were to bail , i dont know how id get them back |
For future reference, you can go to the Korea consulate nearest you (don't know about other ones) and get official copies made of your degrees for a small fee with their official stamps on them. Then you can use those official copies rather than sending your original. I have done this. |
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Atavistic
Joined: 22 May 2006 Location: How totally stupid that Korean doesn't show in this area.
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Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 3:00 pm Post subject: |
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R. S. Refugee wrote: |
For future reference, you can go to the Korea consulate nearest you (don't know about other ones) and get official copies made of your degrees for a small fee with their official stamps on them. Then you can use those official copies rather than sending your original. I have done this. |
You've done this SINCE the NEW E2 regs? What did you do, get the copies apostillized? Apostilled? What the hell is that past tense of that word? Is it even a verb? Whatever.
OP, you probably will get screwed in Korea. That is often life in Korea. Welcome to the fold. Make sure you have enough money to get HOME before you get here. I know the some of these "I couldn't get a decent job in Canada and needed to pay off loans" people will disagree, but really, you need to have SOME way of getting home.
As for "not believing" crap Koreans tell you... Learn this now: Nobody in the gov't has any frickin' clue what is going on. Not about anything, certainly not about these new E2 regs that have changed repeatedly. Recruiters are also clueless for the most part. They are good preparation for your boss, who will also be clueless.
And I'm one of the ones who likes Korea. |
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Draz

Joined: 27 Jun 2007 Location: Land of Morning Clam
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Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 5:30 pm Post subject: |
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expat2001 wrote: |
What I failed to mention was that the RECRUITER NOW HAS MY BS AND my Education degree. I f I were to bail , i dont know how id get them back |
The consulate does in fact need your original degree(s). All the guides around on applying for a visa have been clear on this. Why did you send your degree to the recruiter? Did he/she ask for it? The recruiter should have known better. |
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Norith
Joined: 02 Nov 2007
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Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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Your recruiter doesn't care about you. Like the poster above stated, everyone who's job is directly tied to implementing the new E-2 changes will have no concrete information on how to make things run smoothly.
What document did the KC say that you needed to bring with you for the interview?
R.S. Refugee: When did you get the consulate to make a copy of your degree for you? I got a visa at the end of November, and the consulate in the U.S. made it pretty clear that there were no more Korean Consulates willing to provide that service. In July '07, Korea joined the Hague Convention, which means that Korea is supposed to accept notarized/apostilled documents instead of having to validate them through the KC. |
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PastImperfect
Joined: 21 Oct 2007 Location: indeterminate
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Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 7:44 pm Post subject: |
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expat2001 wrote:
What I failed to mention was that the RECRUITER NOW HAS MY BS AND my Education degree. I f I were to bail , i dont know how id get them back |
The consulate does in fact need your original degree(s). All the guides around on applying for a visa have been clear on this. Why did you send your degree to the recruiter? Did he/she ask for it? The recruiter should have known better. |
I thought the original degree (or a notarised and apostilled copy of it) was required by immigration in Korea to produce the visa issuance number that you then supply to the consulate in your home country? If so, the recruiter or school would need to ask for those documents to be sent to them so they could supply them to immigration in Korea.
If you have links to the guides on applying for a visa that you mentioned, I'd love to see them. I'm confused myself. |
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Bibbitybop

Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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I believe the interview with the consulate idea was scrapped unless you were a "suspicious" applicant.
Also, in 2006, I never had to send my official degree anywhere. I got official copies made and notorized by my university and sent those copies to the secretary of state for their confirmation. Then, that can be sent to the Korean consulate for your visa through the mail.
Long process, but it beats ever having your degree in anyone else's hands. |
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Young FRANKenstein

Joined: 02 Oct 2006 Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)
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Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 10:42 pm Post subject: |
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R. S. Refugee wrote: |
For future reference, you can go to the Korea consulate nearest you (don't know about other ones) and get official copies made of your degrees for a small fee with their official stamps on them. Then you can use those official copies rather than sending your original. I have done this. |
Many Korean consulates will not stamp your copies for official use unless they have ALREADY been notarized FIRST. And they'll need sealed transcript as well to do this.
Toronto has been doing it this way BEFORE the new regs came up. I have no idea how they do it now. |
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expat2001

Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 9:27 am Post subject: |
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Draz wrote: |
expat2001 wrote: |
What I failed to mention was that the RECRUITER NOW HAS MY BS AND my Education degree. I f I were to bail , i dont know how id get them back |
The consulate does in fact need your original degree(s). All the guides around on applying for a visa have been clear on this. Why did you send your degree to the recruiter? Did he/she ask for it? The recruiter should have known better. |
As for the recruter should have known better , I think you give recruiters far too much credit.They are second only to hogwon owners.Boht are idiots !
I didnt send the diplomas , I was in korea , and I left them with the recruiters as requested. The reason for this , was that I knew the rules were going to change and at the time I was led to believe that the recruter knew what they were doing.I should have known bettter |
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expat2001

Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 9:35 am Post subject: |
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Norith wrote: |
Your recruiter doesn't care about you. Like the poster above stated, everyone who's job is directly tied to implementing the new E-2 changes will have no concrete information on how to make things run smoothly.
What document did the KC say that you needed to bring with you for the interview?
R.S. Refugee: When did you get the consulate to make a copy of your degree for you? I got a visa at the end of November, and the consulate in the U.S. made it pretty clear that there were no more Korean Consulates willing to provide that service. In July '07, Korea joined the Hague Convention, which means that Korea is supposed to accept notarized/apostilled documents instead of having to validate them through the KC. |
Im suppose to bring my passport, a head shot picture and one copy of my sealed transcripts.
Im still worried , cause th KC didnt sound like they knew what they were doing as well. They seem a bit lazy. As I mentioned , they called me , but never e mailed me when they couldnt reach me by phone. |
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