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Zyzyfer



Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 4:17 pm    Post subject: Discussing board policy Reply with quote

*Split from this thread - Lemon*

Austin wrote:
Again, if my assertion is incorrect, why does it receive any responses?


Because assertions and queries are two totally different things.

Moreover, you're questioning moderator policy, and if I do recall the rules correctly, that's not something you're supposed to do in public. Other members have had their posts summarily deleted for less intentional attacks than you're making here, so I suggest to take it to PMs with Lemon if you really care to continue this debate. Otherwise, all you're trying to do is rally people up for dissent in something that I find quite trivial. It's also disrupting panthermodern's thread.

We moderate a message board on the internet. Is is really that holy? I'll be damned if it feels that way.
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The Lemon



Joined: 11 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a big long response, but I deleted it. I like Zyz's more. Good to repeat the "it's just a message board" mantra.
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Paji eh Wong



Joined: 03 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 11:16 pm    Post subject: Re: How... Reply with quote

For the record, I disagree with what Austin is saying, but ...

Zyzyfer wrote:

Moreover, you're questioning moderator policy, and if I do recall the rules correctly, that's not something you're supposed to do in public.


Oi. That's a little heavy handed. May I ask why we can't discuss 'moderator policy' in public?
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Tiger Beer



Joined: 07 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2003 12:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is my take on it.. there are 10 mods.. occassionally they see something thats going a little crazy between one of the many little feuds going around.. if it gets too out of hand.. they have a committee and pull or block the thread.. case closed.

As far as mods taking sides and joining on one side or another of a 'feud'.. I highly doubt it. Who wants to get involved and take sides.. nobody.

Think of it like this.. we're all in a bar. Your regular customer JOE starts arguing with BILLY who comes to the bar too.. but not as often. They start to argue.. Joe wants to knock his lights out. Okay, the bartender knows Joe, right? So does he say yeah Joe lets kick this guys ass. No, the bartender says 'get the hell out of my bar' and take it elsewhere, case closed. Bartenders (or mods) don't tolerate any fighting in the bar even if its their best friend trying to start the fight.
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denz



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Location: soapland. alternatively - the school of rock!

PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2003 1:11 am    Post subject: Re: How... Reply with quote

Paji eh Wong wrote:
For the record, I disagree with what Austin is saying, but ...

Zyzyfer wrote:

Moreover, you're questioning moderator policy, and if I do recall the rules correctly, that's not something you're supposed to do in public.


Oi. That's a little heavy handed. May I ask why we can't discuss 'moderator policy' in public?


because the mod policy is uber-gay. they are beyond criticism. it's all very uncanadian, if you ask me.
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The Man known as The Man



Joined: 29 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2003 10:29 am    Post subject: Re: How... Reply with quote

denz wrote:
Paji eh Wong wrote:
For the record, I disagree with what Austin is saying, but ...

Zyzyfer wrote:

Moreover, you're questioning moderator policy, and if I do recall the rules correctly, that's not something you're supposed to do in public.


Oi. That's a little heavy handed. May I ask why we can't discuss 'moderator policy' in public?


because the mod policy is uber-gay. they are beyond criticism. it's all very uncanadian, if you ask me.


I disagree with the ubergay policy, but uncanadian? Canada has had a PM wiht Alzeihmer's for the past 10 years-bending over and taking it silentlyis what Canada is all aboat
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Paji eh Wong



Joined: 03 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2003 11:54 pm    Post subject: Re: How... Reply with quote

denz wrote:
Paji eh Wong wrote:
For the record, I disagree with what Austin is saying, but ...

Zyzyfer wrote:

Moreover, you're questioning moderator policy, and if I do recall the rules correctly, that's not something you're supposed to do in public.


Oi. That's a little heavy handed. May I ask why we can't discuss 'moderator policy' in public?


because the mod policy is uber-gay. they are beyond criticism. it's all very uncanadian, if you ask me.


The silence has been deafening. I guess the Denz is right.

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The Bobster



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2003 12:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mods take criticism all the time - that's pretty much what we're here for ... the silence you speak of is the sound of denz being able to say what he likes without being edited or deleted.

Rolling Eyes

Keep trying, guys ... if his comment had been struck, we're the uber-nazis. If mods come around and dispute him, we're bullies. If the opinion is left to stand here on the board with no comment from us ... um, it proves he's right?

(Bobster scratches his head, ponders.)


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Paji eh Wong



Joined: 03 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2003 12:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The silence I was refering too was on the part of the moderators. I still haven't heard anyone give a reason for discussing board policy in public.

Just a note: I have no problems with the way the board is run. I'm just interested in the lack of discusion.
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The Lemon



Joined: 11 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2003 12:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
I still haven't heard anyone give a reason for discussing board policy in public.

You mean "for", or "against"?
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Paji eh Wong



Joined: 03 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2003 1:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Lemon wrote:
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I still haven't heard anyone give a reason for discussing board policy in public.

You mean "for", or "against"?


Neither 'for' or 'against'.

Why is it against the rules to discuss board policy?
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Dan



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Sunny Glendale, CA

PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2003 1:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What is there to discuss? The admins make a judgement call loosely based on guidelines set, but mostly on their gut reaction.
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The Lemon



Joined: 11 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2003 1:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Neither 'for' or 'against'.

Why is it against the rules to discuss board policy?

Aren't you doing it now?

What would you like to talk about?
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Zyzyfer



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2003 3:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like this thread is an open invitation for you to discuss, Paji eh Wong, and trust me, Lemon's got plenty to say on that current mod criticisms issue. Ask away.
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eamo



Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2003 7:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think this moderation thing is a science.

It seems to me the mods deal with situations in a way that takes into consideration the intentions of wayward posters, not necessarily what is actually said.

For example, some posters may notice that Beckerson, or Denz, (just examples guys, don't go nuts about this) step over the line here and there. So, why aren't they banned?

I think it's because Beckerson and Denz agree, mostly, how this forum is moderated. They have accepted the rules of the game.

If you don't like this game, find another one.

(P.S. Beckerson and Denz are purely examples Wink )
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