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Seoul to Busan Canal
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Julius



Joined: 27 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We all know how stubborn koreans can be once they've committed themselves to an ill-thought out project.

joining up the two river sytems would wreck them both. Han river flows down as freshwater from the mountains, so does nakdong. They involve many tributaries that water vast agricultural areas.

If you link them up...you will basically mess up the catchment areas and introduce saltwater into the waterways of the whole country. Just so some boats can get to Busan and mr mong-back can leave a glorious legacy behind.
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oldfatfarang



Joined: 19 May 2005
Location: On the road to somewhere.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This proposal sounds like somebody has been on a package tour in Europe. Sort of a "Slowly Down the Rhine Tour". You know the ones - eating fine food and drinking fine wines - viewing castles on hilltops, while discussing art and politics with the jet set.

Trouble is, methinks the Seoul to Busan canal might be more like a, "Slowly Down the Ganges" tour. You know the story, simple wooden boats held together with superglue, powered by dark skinned indentured laborers, dead bodies floating by in murky, questionable water etc.

I'm not to sure if this canal is going to boost tourist arrivals.
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kiwiduncan



Joined: 18 Jun 2007
Location: New Zealand

PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess the canal-based tourism images that LMB has in his head are like this:







And some of their rather optimistic artists' renditions show us this:







However, I fear the reality of what they are planning will be more like this:

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kiwiduncan



Joined: 18 Jun 2007
Location: New Zealand

PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wouldn't it just be better to leave it as it is?

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kiwiduncan



Joined: 18 Jun 2007
Location: New Zealand

PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a link to a before and after TV advert of the canal plans. Hope the link works

http://www.mgoon.com/view.htm?id=1223391

Translation:

Night cannot become day. No

Disease cannot be prevented. No

People cannot be birds. No

Pictures cannot move. No

Stars cannot fly (???huh?). No

The Grand Canal is a useless policy. No
2008 Korean Peninsula Grand Canal Construction.

No. That thought is the start of revolution.
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RACETRAITOR



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 8:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like they'll be warming up making a canal between Seoul and Incheon first.
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kiwiduncan



Joined: 18 Jun 2007
Location: New Zealand

PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've heard mention of the Seoul-Incheon canal but where did you hear the details about it?

I heard LMB plans to relax a lot of the construction restrictions around Seoul in order to boost development. Doesn't he realize the good old days of massive economic growth in Korea - like that seen here in the 1970s and 80s - are over? Korea in the last decade has had a slowing but maturing economy where people have started to realize there is more to life than economic growth.

LMB seems to want to reverse this 'well-being' trend. I've said it once and I'll say it again. He is a crusty old dinosaur who will end up embarrassing the whole country.
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RACETRAITOR



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For my work I have to voice-record five news briefs per week. I don't know where they came from, but here's one I just recorded earlier today:

Quote:

Government to resume Seoul-Incheon canal project

The Construction Ministry said yesterday the government will resume the construction of an inland canal between Seoul and Incheon this year. Ministry officials said they reported the canal plan to the transition committee of President-elect Lee Myung-bak.
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denistron



Joined: 21 Oct 2006
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 4:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LOL
Korea is a peninsula. Both cities are near or on a coast. Just boat around! What possible use could a canal have? This makes absolutely no sense. What kind of idiot could even suggest this? I hope they make it just to prove how ridiculous and wasteful it is.
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jeffkim1972



Joined: 10 Jan 2007
Location: Mokpo

PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 5:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I joked that the only thing this canal will do is split Korea into 3. They will want independence from eachother.
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RACETRAITOR



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 5:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apparently Lee Myungbag hired some experts to say the canal is a good idea.

Someone asked "But wouldn't deliveries take longer on a canal?"

And they answered "Just send your package a day earlier."

Brilliant! Why didn't I think of that?
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kiwiduncan



Joined: 18 Jun 2007
Location: New Zealand

PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

More on the Incheon canal. 18km in length, with construction started in 1995 and suspended in 2003, due to opposition from environmentalists and doubts about its economic benefits.

The Korean Board of Audit and Inspection concluded that the government had over-estimated the canal's benefits. I think the same will be said of LMB's new canal plans too.

In order to make the poor little ChollaDo residents that their rivals in Kyeongsang aren't getting preferential treatment LMB has plans for other stupid canal/river-fucking-up projects in the west of the country too.



This would be comparable is pointless stupidity to digging a canal from directly west of New Haven Connecticut to the Hudson river.
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dalpengi



Joined: 08 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Incheon will host the 2014 Asian Games

They currently have a stadium (Munhak) built World Cup for the 2002 World Cup, which holds 50,000. Currently,it hardly ever sees more than 20,000 for K-League matches.

Holyjoe posted in ROKfootball that:
�Apparently Incheon City Hall investigated the possibility of upgrading the Munhak World Cup stadium from 50,000 to a 70,000 capacity venue for use in the 2014 Asian Games, but as it doesn't seem possible they're considering constructing a brand new 70k capacity venue elsewhere in the city specifically for use in the tournament.

Absolutely bloody nuts..�

Links to the article
http://news.media.daum.net/politics/others/200711/15/yonhap/v18863432.html


What is it about Koreans building for the sake of building? There are so many stadiums, sporting venues, bridges that serve absolutely no purpose whatsoever.

Is it a sexual thing (pouring concrete, that is)?
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twg



Joined: 02 Nov 2006
Location: Getting some fresh air...

PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dalpengi wrote:
What is it about Koreans building for the sake of building? There are so many stadiums, sporting venues, bridges that serve absolutely no purpose whatsoever.

Is it a sexual thing (pouring concrete, that is)?

If you live within your budget in a trailer park, people will know that you're trailer trash.

If you go broke paying for that big house with a pool and garage in the suburbs, no one will know you're trailer trash until it's too late.
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denistron



Joined: 21 Oct 2006
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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