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New ad on Dave's - people over 50 not wanted
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cbclark4



Joined: 20 Aug 2006
Location: Masan

PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm reading this link now and the quote referred to in the OP is no longer there.

So what's up was it changed or is it a misquote?
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cubanlord



Joined: 08 Jul 2005
Location: In Japan!

PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cbclark4 wrote:
I'm reading this link now and the quote referred to in the OP is no longer there.

So what's up was it changed or is it a misquote?


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing You know what I bet it was? He read what I wrote in my original post and edited it afterwards. HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA.
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crusher_of_heads



Joined: 23 Feb 2007
Location: kimbop and kimchi for kimberly!!!!

PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 2:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cubanlord wrote:
cbclark4 wrote:
I'm reading this link now and the quote referred to in the OP is no longer there.

So what's up was it changed or is it a misquote?


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing You know what I bet it was? He read what I wrote in my original post and edited it afterwards. HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA.


When wil you be posting those pics of yours?
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skindleshanks



Joined: 10 May 2004

PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 5:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gangwon Epik apparently doesn't hire over 55.

As far as having/enforcing employment laws, Korea doesn't take this too seriously. My wife was rejected at several jobs because she was married--they told her that she was well qualified, but they didn't want to worry about the possibility of pregnancy. Made me a bit upset, but not having the forethought to conceal a tape recorder during the job interview, there wasn't much to be done. Even if we had, would you really want to work for a new employer you had just taken legal action against? I'm sure everyone would make you feel real welcome! (My wife finally found someone willing to hire her, but she quit after working without being paid for three months.)

If you feel it's your calling to fight the system, more power to you. May you be richly rewarded you for your glorious martyrdom . . . .
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traxxe



Joined: 21 Feb 2007

PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lets imagine a true advertisement by the majority of employers in Korea shall we?

Title:

Not the greatest job! Over-zealous management that prefers entertainers to teachers. Don't bother grading, everyone must pass!

Description:

Here at Honestyfirst we strive to lie to our parents about your lack of experience in order to capitalize on tuition. We don't really intend to give you training and plan to throw you to the wolves the second you get here. Here, we always put education last so long as you can make our not so great students like you.

Honestyfirst is located in a polluted area that will shorten your lifespan. There are many things to do near our location but you may be too stressed out to do much by the end of your week. We will also ask you about your smoking and drinking preferences despite being drunkards and having at least a pack a day mentality ourselves.

Qualifications:
Warm body.
Well, a white warm body that is not too old, fat and/or unnatractive. No bearded men should apply either.

Teaching Conditions:
Well, we'll lie a little to you here so why bother. Let's just say you will work your backside off. Then we'll criticize you every chance we get.

Salary:
We will pay you sometimes, so long as we have gotten everything we wanted in our lives first. Remember, you get paid before the Korean teachers. That should be good enough for you even if it is fives months late.

Hours:
Whatever we can get out of you. We'd leave you there to run midnight classes if we could but since your white... we can't trust you by yourself and we need sleep.

Benefits:
We'll pretend to pay your pension and hope you don't notice.

3 sickdays -You'll be sick a lot more, trust us... but we'll make you work.

Airfare - We pay this only because we hope you don't wake up and realize you're getting screwed and cancel the flight. Someone started doing this first and we cannot get teachers unless we do it too. It sucks.

Medical - We'll delay this as long as possible until you complain too much.

Bonus - Haha, unless we think the parents will complain too much if we fire you before your contract is up don't expect to last 12 months... we'll find a way to get out of this bonus thing.

Please send an email to: [email protected]

Not all resumes will be considered... first the ones with the pretty female pictures and then the men.
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Ilsanman



Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Bucheon, Korea

PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In a case of lightning striking twice, I actually agree with Homer here. Many a times I apply for a nice job online or somewhere just to get no reply, and then see the ad crop up a few days later with 'female only' added to it. It sucks, but I wouldn't have wasted my time had I seen it before.

This is just something that has to be accepted. Korea wants the power and wealth of a western country, but none of the responsibilities. PC culture doesn't exist here, and probably won't for a long time.



Homer wrote:
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Welcome to Korea - oops, not if you're over 50. Change that to:
Please stay home. You are not wanted in Korea if you are over 50.


Well look at it this way ellie: at least they are telling you straight up. Laughing

They don't do like many other places and let an older person think they have a shot at the job, get them through an interview and have no intention of hiring them...but hey they look fair. Laughing
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Homer
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 5:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
PC culture doesn't exist here, and probably won't for a long time.


But is that truly a bad thing?

PC culture is one of the things I despise from back home... Laughing
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Been There, Taught That



Joined: 10 Apr 2007
Location: Mungyeong: not a village, not yet a metroplex.

PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 7:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I looked it over, and if any reference to age was there before, it's not now. Jason reads posts here, maybe?

I did read this, though:
Quote:
If you need any help adjusting to Korea or to teaching then we can help.


Do they send their reps to your hagwon or your apt, take you shopping, assign you a friend?

The hope of every teacher is that a recruiter would help when needed, but...?
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Ilsanman



Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Bucheon, Korea

PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree, but only because PC culture back home has gone too far.

Lack of PCness doesn't make institutionalized racism, ageism, or sexism acceptable either.


Homer wrote:
Quote:
PC culture doesn't exist here, and probably won't for a long time.


But is that truly a bad thing?

PC culture is one of the things I despise from back home... Laughing
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Atavistic



Joined: 22 May 2006
Location: How totally stupid that Korean doesn't show in this area.

PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Been There, Taught That wrote:

Do they send their reps to your hagwon or your apt, take you shopping, assign you a friend?

The hope of every teacher is that a recruiter would help when needed, but...?


Actually, one of my recruiters took me to the doctor when I first got here and nobody at my school would believe I was sick.
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Been There, Taught That



Joined: 10 Apr 2007
Location: Mungyeong: not a village, not yet a metroplex.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 4:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Atavistic wrote:
Been There, Taught That wrote:

Do they send their reps to your hagwon or your apt, take you shopping, assign you a friend?

The hope of every teacher is that a recruiter would help when needed, but...?


Actually, one of my recruiters took me to the doctor when I first got here and nobody at my school would believe I was sick.

That's a recruiter or person going at least some distance along that extra mile, then.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 7:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
I agree, but only because PC culture back home has gone too far.


I completely agree.


Quote:
Lack of PCness doesn't make institutionalized racism, ageism, or sexism acceptable either.


Never said it did.... Laughing
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Ilsanman



Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Bucheon, Korea

PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But then you should also admit that PC culture has given us good things, as well as taken away.

As white people (I am assuming you're white) in Canada, it didn't help us much, it seems.

Homer wrote:
Quote:
I agree, but only because PC culture back home has gone too far.


I completely agree.


Quote:
Lack of PCness doesn't make institutionalized racism, ageism, or sexism acceptable either.


Never said it did.... Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 4:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
But then you should also admit that PC culture has given us good things, as well as taken away.


Initially it did. When it was not called PC culture but just good manners and social pressure it did great things. Since then it went into overdrive and in my opinion it has stopped positive change and simply driven the nonPC stuff underground where it thrives.

Just my opinion anyway.

Personally, I prefer a place where you know exactly where you stand with people when you meet them. A little direct and open talk is good sometimes and I do not miss the sugar coated talk we get back home when it comes to anything serious....
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