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The best way to stop the grand canal?
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Troll_Bait



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 6:17 pm    Post subject: The best way to stop the grand canal? Reply with quote

Build a tunnel from Korea to Japan instead, like the one between England and France.

http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUST14339020080215?feedType=RSS&feedName=worldNews&rpc=22&sp=true

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Japan lawmakers want "peace tunnel" to South Korea

Japan and South Korea, long at odds over their wartime history, should be linked by a railway tunnel under the sea symbolising peaceful ties, a group of Japanese lawmakers was reported as saying on Friday.

The cross-party group of parliamentarians is proposing a 128 km (80 miles) tunnel that would be part of a rail link between Karatsu on Japan's southwestern island of Kyushu and Pusan in South Korea via two Japanese islands, Kyodo news agency said.

The tunnel -- which would be more than twice as long as the Channel Tunnel connecting Britain and France -- could one day allow passengers to travel by rail from Tokyo to London, Kyodo quoted lawmakers as saying.

"This is a dream-inspiring project," Kyodo quoted former defense chief Seishiro Eto as telling reporters after a meeting with other interested lawmakers from various parties. "We'd like to promote it as a symbol of peace-building."

The lawmakers' group first plans to try to persuade Tokyo and Seoul to fund a feasibility study, Kyodo said.

Eto was not immediately available to comment on the report.

Relations between Tokyo and Seoul have improved since former Japanese Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi stepped down in 2006. Koizumi irritated Asian nations with annual visits to a war shrine that critics see as a symbol of Japan's past militarism.

Conservative South Korean President-elect Lee Myung-bak was born in Japan and is seen as Tokyo-friendly. Japanese Prime Minister Yasuo Fukuda plans to attend his inauguration in Seoul later this month.


It would make a lot more sense.

(Hat Tip to the Marmot's Hole blog.)
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TheChickenLover



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As long as the Chinese have no involvement in building it, I would seriously consider using it for a few days of shopping in Japan. Costs a little too much right now to fly, but at times can be worth it.

Chicken
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RACETRAITOR



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I recall Vanislander had a lot to say about this. It sounds like it'll go from Kyushu to Geoje.

The Japanese really want a mainland connection, and this is the best way. Not really a stupid idea at all. It would make a trip to Japan quite easy.
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kiwiduncan



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a much better idea than the canal plan. As long as they make the tunnel earthquake proof.
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aaabank



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Japanese would sure take a more supportive role in reconciling North and South Korea if this rail link with mainland Asia were to happen. I can just see the Japanese businesses eyeing the potential for land trade with China as a huge plus for them. The Chinese would also love this link for trade in the other direction with Japan.
My take is that this is an excellent idea. It would definitely help the 60-year old war finally come to a conclusion.
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mrsquirrel



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Canal would provide hundreds of jobs for migrant workers.
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RACETRAITOR



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mrsquirrel wrote:
Canal would provide hundreds of jobs for migrant workers.


Why not just give them the money and tell them to take their families on a nice trip?
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mrsquirrel



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like the idea of a canal, having grown up beside Neptune's Staircase.
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nateium



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One part of me want to help protest the canal because it's obviously a bad idea.

Another sick side of me wants to watch them build it just to see what will happen.

A train seems to be a much better idea.
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mrsquirrel



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nateium wrote:
One part of me want to help protest the canal because it's obviously a bad idea.

Another sick side of me wants to watch them build it just to see what will happen.

A train seems to be a much better idea.


Can't go fishing on a train line.
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kiwiduncan



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For more information on just how stupid the canal plan is check out

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=7935272621

For Korean readers this site is also good

www.gobada.co.kr
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itaewonguy



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 2:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bet you it wouldnt be cheap to use the train anyway..
from seoul to tokyo it would still be cheaper to fly and way faster..
good for people from pusan or people around fukoka.. but tokyo, osaka or seoul forget it.,. will cost hundreds of thousands of won and take half a day just to get there.. Id rather fly for 300.000 won and get there in 2 hours!
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Tokki1



Joined: 14 May 2007
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 2:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most retarded plan I've ever heard of...oh except for his other plan to have ALL Korean teachers in EVERY subject teaching their students in English. Oh and 99% of other Korean policies I've head about.

I thought crack was illegal here.

Someone get the pipe out of this guy's mouth before he has any more crazy ideas.
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bassexpander



Joined: 13 Sep 2007
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 3:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

All of these grand ideas are just a snowjob to keep journalists busy so that they don't talk about his LMB's involvement with BBK so much.
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huffdaddy



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 3:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Even better - a tunnel from Korea to China!!


korea.net
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Gyeonggi-do (province) has begun feasibility studies on building a mammoth underwater tunnel connecting Korea to China, a province official said Sunday (Feb/ 17).

Lee Han-joon, a chief policy advisor to the province, said in a conference held aboard a ferry heading from Pyeongtaek in Korea�s Gyeonggi-do to Rongchen, China, that a detailed review on the engineering that would be involved in the construction is being reviewed.

In addition, the overall cost and time required to complete the task are being examined, he said, adding that the benefits that can be derived from the ambitious project will receive key attention.

"This project requires long-term political and diplomatic planning on the part of the governments of Korea and China, with Gyeonggi-do offering a reference point by conducting the review," Lee said.

Pyeongtaek, located 70 kilometers south of Seoul, is a port being developed as the new logistics hub of central Korea.

Lee said that while the total length of the underwater tunnel connecting Pyeongtaek with Weihei on the Shandong Peninsula would be 375 kilometers, the average depth of the Yellow Sea along the length on the planned tunnel is about 40 meters, with its deepest point reaching 73 meters, making the construction of the tunnel possible from an engineering standpoint.
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