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Illegal tutoring is targeted--10 million won per month?
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Real Reality



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2003 4:00 pm    Post subject: Illegal tutoring is targeted--10 million won per month? Reply with quote

Illegal tutoring is targeted: City of Seoul cracks down on cram schools

The Seoul Metropolitan Office of Education is offering rewards for reports of illegal private tutoring. The office announced Saturday that any ordinary citizen, government or civic group official who reports illegal private tutoring, which proliferates in Seoul's affluent areas, will receive up to 2 million won ($1,700).

The education office said it targets all hagwon operating after 10 p.m. and only those private tutors who receive more than 10 million won per month and do not report their earnings.
http://joongangdaily.joins.com/200311/24/200311240110215839900090409041.html

How many of the posters at Dave's teaches for 10 million won per month?
Do you earn anywhere near 10 million won/month?
Do you earn even 5 million won/month?
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Play_Doh



Joined: 24 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2003 4:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Illegal tutoring is targeted--10 million won per month? Reply with quote

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How many of the posters at Dave's teaches for 10 million won per month?
Do you earn anywhere near 10 million won/month?
Do you earn even 5 million won/month?


Why? Who's asking?
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Real Reality



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2003 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Real Reality is asking.

I doubt any poster at Dave's makes 10 million won per month legally or illegally.

Most posters do not earn 25 percent of 10 million won per month.

How is it possible to legally earn 10 million won per month?
How is it possible to legally earn 5 million won per month?
According to the article, it is okay to earn 10 million won per month as long as it is reported.
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Butterfly



Joined: 02 Mar 2003
Location: Kuwait

PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2003 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm surprised the figure (10 million) is that high. I don't think it is particularly directed at we foreigners anyway. There is a huge untaxed workforce of private tutors among Koreans in the Gangnam area particuarly. A woman I dated last year made notably more than me and worked less hours just from teaching kids in their houses. She hadn't paid tax in years. These are the people the govt are after I'm sure.
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Ilsanman



Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Bucheon, Korea

PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2003 7:07 pm    Post subject: yes Reply with quote

I know one person who earns about 4 million a month, but he/she works his/her ass off to do it. I am not willing to do it.
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katydid



Joined: 02 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2003 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I tutored in Mokpo, I had one class that was 600,000 won a month for 6 kids and also 400,000 won a month for 2 kids. Most of the time, I was making about 300,000 won a month for the time I had private lessons.
Unless someone is charging a lot of money and working a lot of hours, there is no way anyone could do 10 million won a month. You'd have to work an extra 200 hours a month at 50,000 won (which to me seems the standard going rate for one-on-one tutors in Seoul) to make that kind of money.
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weatherman



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Location: Korea

PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2003 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some do. Usually it is when the teacher gets a cut of the fees paid to the school. In this case your popularity as a teacher is very important, or ability, I never know which one it is in Korea. My ex girlfriend gets a cut of her students fees. Some months she really rakes the money in, but not in the 10 million range, but way more then what I make. I have only seen this deal for Korean teachers, and not a native speaker. Does anybody know differently?
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Mr. Pink



Joined: 21 Oct 2003
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2003 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Koreans teaching TOEIC or TOEFL at cram schools make HUGE bank.

Realize some of these after 10pm hawgwons are operating until 2-3am.

I knew a Korean teacher who would make 5-6mil a month teaching TOEIC at these cram schools.

I'd imagine if you worked constantly you could make 10mil +

Pretty crazy huh?
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Austin



Joined: 23 May 2003
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2003 10:27 pm    Post subject: Back in the day... Reply with quote

In 1995~96, I used to "volunteer" at a cram school in the evenings, and all of the Korean English teachers (that were preparing the high school students) were making five to six million per month without busting their humps (seven days per week, but not over 5~6 hours per day).

Those were the days...
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Derrek



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2003 3:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wonder if they mean the people who are foreigners that operate illegal hagwons? I know of a guy who does this with his Korean wife. They don't have a hagwon liscense, and he can't legally teach. But....
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prairieboy



Joined: 14 Sep 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2003 5:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wish I made 10 mill+ a month. But, then again, I'm not willing to give up more time than I have to nor am I willing to run the risk of getting caught.
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The King of Kwangju



Joined: 10 Feb 2003
Location: New York City

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2003 9:55 am    Post subject: Re: Back in the day... Reply with quote

Austin wrote:
... were making five to six million per month without busting their humps (seven days per week, but not over 5~6 hours per day)...

Erm - that's 35 to 42 teaching hours a week. Which in my opinion, is hump-busting, providing you're actually putting some effort into your teaching.
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dutchman



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2003 1:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Derrek wrote:
I wonder if they mean the people who are foreigners that operate illegal hagwons? I know of a guy who does this with his Korean wife. They don't have a hagwon liscense, and he can't legally teach. But....


Thinking of collecting the reward Derrek?
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Mr. Pink



Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: China

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2003 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dutchman wrote:
Derrek wrote:
I wonder if they mean the people who are foreigners that operate illegal hagwons? I know of a guy who does this with his Korean wife. They don't have a hagwon liscense, and he can't legally teach. But....


Thinking of collecting the reward Derrek?


If the reward was 10mil won, you bet your ass I would be turning people in. 3-4 people and I have practically doubled my salary for the year Wink
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gajackson1



Joined: 27 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2003 6:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, I make great money, by hagwon standards. Cool But then I saw this in the linked article:

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On Saturday, 6,000 presidents of these learning institutes located in Seoul and other areas of the nation held a rally in Yeouido, Seoul.
Shocked


Shoooooootttt - had I known that, I would have put on a suit, grabbed some business cards, and gone to Yeouido to meet some folks!!! Crying or Very sad

Almost like the other article about Gang-nam residents spending 17% of their income per year on private tutoring. Shocked

Regards,

Glen
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