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bassexpander
Joined: 13 Sep 2007 Location: Someplace you'd rather be.
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 4:56 am Post subject: |
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Korlingus wrote: |
Conspiracy? I think you need a little more aluminum foil under your hat.  |
Who said conspiracy? Well, I didn't, anyway. |
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Khenan

Joined: 25 Dec 2007
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 8:14 am Post subject: |
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bassexpander wrote: |
Korlingus wrote: |
Conspiracy? I think you need a little more aluminum foil under your hat.  |
Who said conspiracy? Well, I didn't, anyway. |
Wish I had a citation, but I read a paper once that discovered that aluminum foil actually amplifies a certain range of wavelengths, and that that specific set of wavelengths was reserved by the U.S. Feds.......
Funny. |
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bassexpander
Joined: 13 Sep 2007 Location: Someplace you'd rather be.
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 7:16 pm Post subject: |
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Khenan wrote: |
bassexpander wrote: |
Korlingus wrote: |
Conspiracy? I think you need a little more aluminum foil under your hat.  |
Who said conspiracy? Well, I didn't, anyway. |
Wish I had a citation, but I read a paper once that discovered that aluminum foil actually amplifies a certain range of wavelengths, and that that specific set of wavelengths was reserved by the U.S. Feds.......
Funny. |
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Then there are those that think that the US government is involved in a conspiracy against the rest of the world.  |
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twg

Joined: 02 Nov 2006 Location: Getting some fresh air...
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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I think the intent is to put everything about ESL under tighter government control.
Which is fair enough, I guess. But for an industry that was built and thrives on lax regulations, it does indeed sound like a death knell. |
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SHANE02

Joined: 04 Jun 2003
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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Tighter control?
How about they check that tax, medical, social security payments are being made? |
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moosehead

Joined: 05 May 2007
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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SHANE02 wrote: |
Tighter control?
How about they check that tax, medical, social security payments are being made? |
I agree - but - in public education jobs, these things ARE done - it's the private sector where they are not. |
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gypsyfish
Joined: 17 Jan 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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Maybe it's a CELTA conspiracy because CELTA isn't valued in Korea. |
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bassexpander
Joined: 13 Sep 2007 Location: Someplace you'd rather be.
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 10:56 pm Post subject: |
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gypsyfish wrote: |
Maybe it's a CELTA conspiracy because CELTA isn't valued in Korea. |
It does have value. About the same value as these: www.eslcafe.com
Back on topic, though...
I think it has a lot to do with a fight over money. How many universities are now adding their own hagwons (and expensive TESOL courses)? How many public schools are now adding teachers?
Kill off the hagwons by tightening restrictions on them. Pass laws against private tutoring that get you put in jail.
Look at the people who are proposing/passing these laws, and the connections that they have. Who are their friends? I'd be curious about all of these things. |
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Kimchieluver

Joined: 02 Mar 2005
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 11:09 pm Post subject: |
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Once LMB is in power and has all his minions lined up, I would not be surprised if the Korean government did a 160 with these laws. |
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magicmajenta
Joined: 03 Feb 2007 Location: Saint Paul Minnesota
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 11:56 pm Post subject: |
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So what are the regulations if you are getting a publlic school job. Have they changed or is it still pretty much interview by phone and that's it? |
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gypsyfish
Joined: 17 Jan 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 3:36 am Post subject: |
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Kimchieluver wrote: |
Once LMB is in power and has all his minions lined up, I would not be surprised if the Korean government did a 160 with these laws. |
Do you mean a 180? Of course with the Korean government, it could be a 160, a 69, or a 12. |
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Kimchieluver

Joined: 02 Mar 2005
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Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 5:14 am Post subject: |
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gypsyfish wrote: |
Kimchieluver wrote: |
Once LMB is in power and has all his minions lined up, I would not be surprised if the Korean government did a 160 with these laws. |
Do you mean a 180? Of course with the Korean government, it could be a 160, a 69, or a 12. |
Hehe. I originally typed in a 360 and decided that would not be the case so when I edited I screwed up, but nice catch. |
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Insidejohnmalkovich

Joined: 11 Jan 2008 Location: Pusan
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Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 5:17 am Post subject: |
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Why do some teachers keep calling for the hagwons to pay taxes, pension and medical insurance? Those things are just chunks out of my paycheck. |
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PGF
Joined: 27 Nov 2006
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Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 8:48 am Post subject: |
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Insidejohnmalkovich wrote: |
Why do some teachers keep calling for the hagwons to pay taxes, pension and medical insurance? Those things are just chunks out of my paycheck. |
really? |
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paquebot
Joined: 20 Jun 2007 Location: Northern Gyeonggi-do
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Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 9:57 am Post subject: |
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Insidejohnmalkovich wrote: |
Why do some teachers keep calling for the hagwons to pay taxes, pension and medical insurance? Those things are just chunks out of my paycheck. |
Calling for taxes is usually related to erroneous statements of how much should be deducted for taxes - many contracts outline 3.3 or 5% deductions per pay period when this is a false claim. Why pay a fixed 5% when it's a flexible amount that often comes out to ~1.6% for the standard salary?
Pension, depending on where you're from, is equivalent to a savings account that will net you a 200% return come the end of the year. Deductions are made from your salary that are matched by your employer. Who doesn't like getting free money at the completion of their contract?
Medical insurance is great if you ever need to take advantage of the health care services of Korea. True, most people assume they'll never get hurt, but it would certainly come in handy were an accident to befall you (or any of us) while living in Korea.
They're all chunks out of [our] paycheck, but the last two can be very positive for many people. |
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