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NightSky



Joined: 19 Apr 2005

PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 5:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SuperHero wrote:
plus genetically once a woman is pregnant there really is no reason for sex, it's better to spread your genes elsewhere. Just speaking biologically here, not emotionally or socially.


right, but I'm saying that if the woman looked LESS attractive during pregnancy, the male would have more reason to wander off, get bored and distracted, etc. So from a biological/evolutionary standpoint, it makes more sense that a woman has other things happening to her body while she's pregnant to keep her looking good. I would think it's weird to be "turned on" per se by a pregnant woman you've no connection with, but not if you were the person to get her pregnant in the first place.
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Hanson



Joined: 20 Oct 2004

PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 7:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

travel zen wrote:
I don't get the idea of a pregnant women being attractive or not

Isn't being pregnant a function? Wouldn't that be natures purpose of a woman being attractive ?

Isn't procreation the end-game of all this fuss about attractiveness, courting and mating? Or is it just for the orgasm and the pretty face? Shocked


Dude, not that anyone cares, but I dig sexy legs, feet, a nice ass and a slew of other things I shouldn't mention here that have nothing to do with procreation.

Dude, what turns you on, a woman giving birth? Shocked

And please note that every post in this thread should start with the word "Dude". Thank you for your cooperation.
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the_beaver



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 8:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hanson wrote:
Dude, not that anyone cares, but I dig sexy legs, feet, a nice ass and a slew of other things I shouldn't mention here that have nothing to do with procreation.


Dude...

Hanson wrote:
Dude, what turns you on, a woman giving birth? Shocked


Duuuuuude...

Hanson wrote:
And please note that every post in this thread should start with the word "Dude". Thank you for your cooperation.


Dude!
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Atavistic



Joined: 22 May 2006
Location: How totally stupid that Korean doesn't show in this area.

PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NightSky wrote:
Atavistic wrote:

Those of us who really don't want ANY kids...we're the perverse ones.


Actually it's quite a movement these days with its own lingo and everything...


Dude, I know, as I am CF, but the fact that it's a trend doesn't change the fact that most people seem to view CFers as crazy.
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Hanson



Joined: 20 Oct 2004

PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Atavistic wrote:
NightSky wrote:
Atavistic wrote:

Those of us who really don't want ANY kids...we're the perverse ones.


Actually it's quite a movement these days with its own lingo and everything...


Dude, I know, as I am CF, but the fact that it's a trend doesn't change the fact that most people seem to view CFers as crazy.


Dude, not wanting children is totally cool in my book. You will never know what you're missing, but ignorance is bliss.

I remember George Clooney, in an interview, saying something along the lines of "I'm not responsible enough to take care of myself, let alone a child." Kinda reminds me of the_beaver, actually.
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NightSky



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Atavistic wrote:
NightSky wrote:
Atavistic wrote:

Those of us who really don't want ANY kids...we're the perverse ones.


Actually it's quite a movement these days with its own lingo and everything...


Dude, I know, as I am CF, but the fact that it's a trend doesn't change the fact that most people seem to view CFers as crazy.



Dude, not these days. it's the totally hip and cool thing to be CF.
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bacasper



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Darashii wrote:
The adopted siblings are happier because they were adopted?

For one thing, adopted kids KNOW they were wanted.
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Hanson



Joined: 20 Oct 2004

PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dude! Don't call me dude!!!

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3950850901502145384&q=dude&total=138730&start=20&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=1
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Atavistic



Joined: 22 May 2006
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hanson wrote:
Atavistic wrote:
NightSky wrote:
Atavistic wrote:

Those of us who really don't want ANY kids...we're the perverse ones.


Actually it's quite a movement these days with its own lingo and everything...


Dude, I know, as I am CF, but the fact that it's a trend doesn't change the fact that most people seem to view CFers as crazy.


Dude, not wanting children is totally cool in my book. You will never know what you're missing, but ignorance is bliss.


Dude, I agree. Parents will never know the joys of being childfree. Ignorance is bliss.

(And dude, why are parents always trying to make other people parents? Misery loves company, I guess.)
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Temporary



Joined: 13 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kids are overated.
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Hanson



Joined: 20 Oct 2004

PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 2:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Atavistic wrote:
Hanson wrote:
Atavistic wrote:
NightSky wrote:
Atavistic wrote:

Those of us who really don't want ANY kids...we're the perverse ones.


Actually it's quite a movement these days with its own lingo and everything...


Dude, I know, as I am CF, but the fact that it's a trend doesn't change the fact that most people seem to view CFers as crazy.


Dude, not wanting children is totally cool in my book. You will never know what you're missing, but ignorance is bliss.


Dude, I agree. Parents will never know the joys of being childfree. Ignorance is bliss.

(And dude, why are parents always trying to make other people parents? Misery loves company, I guess.)


Dude, that makes no sense. I was childless at one point (only a few years ago), so I definitely know the joys of being childless... And I'm not trying to make anyone a parent, I'm just saying that you'll never know the feeling of having your child hug you and make your heart melt.

Dude, just sayin', is all.
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the_beaver



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 4:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hanson wrote:
Dude, that makes no sense. I was childless at one point (only a few years ago), so I definitely know the joys of being childless... And I'm not trying to make anyone a parent, I'm just saying that you'll never know the feeling of having your child hug you and make your heart melt.

Dude, just sayin', is all.


Dude, allow me to elaborate and redefine. Parents are muddled and be-fucked into believing that sleepless nights, higher expenses, worrying over sicknesses, worrying over perverts, requirements to be home and other restrictions are all negated the first time the sprog mutters something along the lines of, "dude." Sprogless folks require no such self-delusion.
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agentX



Joined: 12 Oct 2007
Location: Jeolla province

PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 6:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know. Adoption, especially overseas, can be more difficult than traversing a Cambodian minefield.

Yeah, let's say you find a child. How will know if this child doesn't have a hidden illness, a mental dysfunction, or a genetic disorder? Or how will you be able to tell if that child wasn't kidnapped/sold/produced for the express purpose of being adopted (Baby farmers)?

What if your wife is ok with adoption but gets pregnant or demands a baby later on? What then?

You are dammed 3 ways to Sunday.
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Atavistic



Joined: 22 May 2006
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 7:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hanson wrote:

Dude, that makes no sense. I was childless at one point (only a few years ago), so I definitely know the joys of being childless... And I'm not trying to make anyone a parent, I'm just saying that you'll never know the feeling of having your child hug you and make your heart melt.

Dude, just sayin', is all.


Dude, it makes total sense. If one plans to have kids, one plans life to have kids. And once you have kids, they are there. Forever. You are not childfree once you have a kid, want a kid, plan to have a kid, etc. Until you have a kid, you are CHILDLESS. And you can't understand a lifetime of childfreeness if you have a kid, plan to have a kid, want to have a kid, try to have a kid, etc.

Your use of "childless" as opposed to "childfree" is most telling.

But frankly, I think trying to explain childFREE as opposed to childLESS is usually lost of parents, people who want to be parents, etc. Similarly, I generally just don't get women that spend tens of thousands of dollars to have children (IVF, etc), and none of the CF people I know really understand the desire either.
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thepeel



Joined: 08 Aug 2004

PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 7:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmFBOVZ6BLM
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