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Hakwons paying W3 million ???
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baedaebok



Joined: 27 Feb 2007
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 1:49 am    Post subject: Hakwons paying W3 million ??? Reply with quote

I've seen some hakwons ads stating monthly salaries of W3 million.
The hours are heavy but the looks suspiciously high. How can this be?
Considering that the supply is greater than the demand, I'd thought hagwon salaries couldn't rise that high.

What's up with W3 mil @ a hagwon?
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Hank the Iconoclast



Joined: 08 Oct 2007
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 2:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The workload will be so immense that it's not worth it.
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Saxiif



Joined: 15 May 2003
Location: Seongnam

PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 2:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are hagwons out there that pay 4 million to people who don't even have a BA (SAT hagwons in the summer). It all depends
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baedaebok



Joined: 27 Feb 2007
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 2:14 am    Post subject: Pay and workloads Reply with quote

If some hakwons pay W3 or W4 million, why do people scramble to the universities? Is it just workload? It would seem to me that hakwons may be a better bet.
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diablo3



Joined: 11 Sep 2004

PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 2:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There would be a handful....but why not instead look for something like 2.7 million plus free housing? However, I imagine 3 million per month means no housing, if that is what you want.
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KoreanAmbition



Joined: 03 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 2:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I talked to a recruiter for a while about a hagwon job that was paying 3.0 million won with free housing, OR 3.5 million won if you didn't want the housing.

The problem was long hours:

Monday to Friday 3:30 (4:30) - 9:30 (10:30) pm
Saturday 1:30 - 7:30pm

(I believe that was the Saturday shift...give or take an hour).

The school had you just follow their curriculum and teach out of their books, so basically prep was less than 30 minutes before each shift.

I agree the workload is much heavier, but at the time I was mainly concerned with finding a job that gauranteed a high salary even at the expense of a lot of hours. I liked the perks of getting up late, so to be honest the job appealed to me for a while.

If you want some more info on the job you can PM me and I can give you the contact of the recruiter I was dealing with.

Cheers
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Saxiif



Joined: 15 May 2003
Location: Seongnam

PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 4:53 am    Post subject: Re: Pay and workloads Reply with quote

baedaebok wrote:
If some hakwons pay W3 or W4 million, why do people scramble to the universities? Is it just workload? It would seem to me that hakwons may be a better bet.


1. There's not many of them that do.
2. Longer hours.
3. Less vacation.
4. Seasonal work.
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fustiancorduroy



Joined: 12 Jan 2007

PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 9:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a full-time hagwon job last year that paid 3.4 million a month. I did, however, have to pay my own rent (400,000 a month). But considering I worked about 4-5 hours a day, 4-5 days a week, it was a pretty good deal. Surprised
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twg



Joined: 02 Nov 2006
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

KoreanAmbition wrote:
I talked to a recruiter for a while about a hagwon job that was paying 3.0 million won with free housing, OR 3.5 million won if you didn't want the housing.

The problem was long hours:

Monday to Friday 3:30 (4:30) - 9:30 (10:30) pm
Saturday 1:30 - 7:30pm

(I believe that was the Saturday shift...give or take an hour).

The school had you just follow their curriculum and teach out of their books, so basically prep was less than 30 minutes before each shift.

I agree the workload is much heavier

Aside from the Saturday, that's pretty standard for hagwons.

The recruiter is either blowing smoke up your ass or doesn't have all of the information. Or this job is so far out in the wilds that you'll need a guide and train of pack mules to get there.

Remember the Tao Of Hagwon : If it's sounds good, it most likely isn't. And it's not if you're going to get screwed, but when.
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cdninkorea



Joined: 27 Jan 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

twg wrote:
Remember the Tao Of Hagwon : If it's sounds good, it most likely isn't. And it's not if you're going to get screwed, but when.


Laughing
Immortal words.
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nebraska1



Joined: 06 Jan 2008
Location: Judge, Some people just need killin!

PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cdninkorea wrote:
twg wrote:
Remember the Tao Of Hagwon : If it's sounds good, it most likely isn't. And it's not if you're going to get screwed, but when.


Laughing
Immortal words.


Hmm? I need this on a sampler...to cross stitch!!!!! Laughing
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twg



Joined: 02 Nov 2006
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cdninkorea wrote:
twg wrote:
Remember the Tao Of Hagwon : If it's sounds good, it most likely isn't. And it's not if you're going to get screwed, but when.


Laughing
Immortal words.

well aside from the typos... But I figure even Buddha had an editor go over his stuff later on.
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Rumple



Joined: 19 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 8:05 pm    Post subject: 3.4 Hagwan Reply with quote

I had a hagwan job that paid 3.4 with a free apartment once, in Seoul.

I taught 8 hours a day, Monday through Saturday.

The money was great and I did it for a while because I was fine (at that time) to have no life, but now I have a girlfriend and want to actually be more than just and earning machine, so that doesn't do it for me anymore. Now I work 6 hours a day, 5 days a week, for a lot less money, but I'm much happier. I don't regret working hard, but it is certainly hard to keep up for a whole year.
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MollyBloom



Joined: 21 Jul 2006
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

diablo3 wrote:
There would be a handful....but why not instead look for something like 2.7 million plus free housing? However, I imagine 3 million per month means no housing, if that is what you want.


Last year I worked mon-sat, 2:00-10:30, for 2.8 mil a month. I did a lot of work and brought home work almost every night. I really didn't mind, though, because I came to Korea to work.

I definitely won't do that again.
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happeningthang



Joined: 26 Apr 2003

PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's more than a few schools who'll pay that amount of money - but you work for it.

Still, my job now only requires 36 hrs per week for 3 mill and (nice) accomodation.

BUT - There's a Saturday shift and no public holidays EVER (bar Seollal).
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