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peanut
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| I know the program has barely started but how has it been so far? |
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Tiger Beer
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| Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 12:43 am Post subject: |
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| So far, so good. Very glad to be participating in the program. |
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Pyongshin Sangja
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| Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 1:08 am Post subject: |
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| Any reputable Master's program will take around 2 years to complete. |
Cubanlord, I suppose an MSc or MA from the London School of Economics is, um, disreputable?
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MSc History of Empires
Page contents > Studying at LSE | About the MA/MSc programme
Application code: V3UE (check availability)
Start date: 2 October 2008
Duration: 12 months full-time, 24 months part-time
Intake/applications in 2006: New programme in 2008
Minimum entry requirement: 2:1 or equivalent in any discipline (See entry requirements)
English requirement: Higher (See entry requirements)
GRE/GMAT requirement: None
Fee level: UK/EU �9,144; overseas �13,452
Financial support: Graduate Merit Awards are available for this programme (see Fees and financial support). UK/EU students may apply to the Arts and Humanities Research Board for funding (see Arts and Humanities )
Application deadline: None � rolling admissions
Departmental website: www.lse.ac.uk/collections/internationalHistory |
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1 Oxford 6.2 13 2671 522 98.6 89.4 78.6 1000
2 Cambridge 6.5 12.2 2097 530 97.9 84.5 87.9 995
3 Imperial College 3.9 5.8 9.7 2828 453 96 72.4 86 960
4 London School of Economics 3.9 6.3 13.2 1416 471 96.9 74.6 83 915
5 St Andrews 4.1 5.3 15.4 1009 458 94.8 79.7 72.6 841
6 University College London 3.9 5.5 9.4 1623 429 94.3 72.5 79.8 832
7 Warwick 5.6 17.1 1724 453 96.7 79.3 73 813
8 Bristol 3.9 5.2 14.9 1426 440 95.8 81.3 76 811
9 Durham 4 5.2 20.3 1250 452 96.4 75.4 75.8 810
10 King's College London 4 4.7 12.4 1546 399 93.2 67.2 79.8 77 |
http://extras.timesonline.co.uk/gug/gooduniversityguide.php |
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Hank the Iconoclast
Joined: 08 Oct 2007
Location: Busan
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| Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 3:04 am Post subject: |
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| Tiger Beer wrote: |
| So far, so good. Very glad to be participating in the program. |
I want to do it next year. Need more information. |
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cubanlord
Joined: 08 Jul 2005
Location: In Japan!
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| Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 4:03 am Post subject: |
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| Pyongshin Sangja wrote: |
Cubanlord, I suppose an MSc or MA from the London School of Economics is, um, disreputable? |
Perhaps I should have said it differently (oh...and...you aren't comparing the same program; they are different disciplines): a reputable masters program will be above 30 credit hours. I said 2 years because that is the average time for someone to complete a masters (you know, 4 for bachelors and 2 for masters....at least in the US). Obviously, some go more than 6 graduate credit hours and can therefore complete the program faster (such as myself...I will have finished my program by April in a year and a half because I took 9 credit hours a semester). |
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Pyongshin Sangja
Joined: 20 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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| I just think you're being highly Ameri-centric. There are other ways of doing things, you know. |
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Pyongshin Sangja
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| Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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Oxford Brookes:
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Course Outline
This course is for you if you want to study an MA in TESOL at a leading Oxford-based UK University. Areas covered by the course include Applied Linguistics, ELT (English Language Teaching), Business English and EAP (English for Academic Purposes).
* Choose your mode of study:
o full time (12 months);
o part time (24 or 36 months) . |
http://www.brookes.ac.uk/schools/education/matesol.html
Liverpool:
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Teaching English to Speakers of Other Languages (TESOL) MA
Programme code: MA/TESOL
Major code: TEMA
Programme length: 1 year full-time (annual intake) |
http://www.liv.ac.uk/english/ma_courses/post_ma_tesol.htm
York:
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MA in TESOL
Introduction
The Department of Educational Studies offers a one-year (12 month) taught full-time MA in Teaching English to Speakers of Other Languages (TESOL) programme. |
http://www.york.ac.uk/depts/educ/gsp/matesol.htm
Lancaster:
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M.A. in Teaching English as a Foreign Language (TEFL)
At a glance...
Director of Studies Dr. Alan Waters
Programme length Full-time: 12 months, part-time: 24 months |
http://www.ling.lancs.ac.uk/study/masters/tefl.htm
One from NZ, Otago, just for variety:
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Overview
The Master of Arts (MA) degree normally requires at least one year of full-time, |
http://www.otago.ac.nz/courses/qualifications/ma.html
Australia, Macquarie as of 2008:
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Master of Applied Linguistics (TESOL)
Length of candidature: 1 year full-time, 2 years or more part-time |
http://www.ling.mq.edu.au/postgraduate/coursework/alp/mal_tesol.htm
Queensland:
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Master of Arts (MA)
At a Glance
Duration 1.5 year(s) full-time (or part-time equivalent)
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http://www.uq.edu.au/study/program.html?acad_prog=5154
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UNE:
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Structure of the degree
The degree consists of 48 credit points made up of 8 units (courses or subjects) of 6 credit points each, and is normally taken over 1 year full-time or 2 - 4 years part-time.
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http://www.une.edu.au/bcss/linguistics/maal.php |
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cubanlord
Joined: 08 Jul 2005
Location: In Japan!
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| Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 7:40 pm Post subject: |
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pyong...pyong...pyong.... Why are you so hung up on how long it takes to complete a program? That is not a quality trait! What you should be focusing your attention on is the amount of worked involved in completing a program and the quality of that work.
While I understand what you are saying, I still, regrettably, have to say that you aren't understanding what I have said. It doesn't matter how fast you can finish the course. What matters is the amount of classes/work one has to do (i.e. credit hours). OF COURSE YOU CAN FINISH A PROGRAM IN A YEAR IF YOU PLOW THROUGH IT! Anyone can. However, the real question comes into play when one looks at a university's program and notices that an MA or MS program is less than 30 credit hours. One must question its rigor and quality (and one way of doing this is by checking to see if the program is accredited by a well-established body). Imagine if a Bachelors degree was only 12 credit hours. Would you say that program is a quality program? I can guarantee that no accrediting body worth its weight in gold would ever credit such an institution that has a Bachelor's degree for only 12 hours or an MA/MS degree under 30 credit hours. There are conventional methods that universities tend to follow for a reason (i.e. requirements to get into a program, program structure, mandatory assignments such as a thesis or research proposal, etc.); they represent quality.
I guess you can say I am being "Ameri-centric". Sure. However these are my perspectives of what constitute quality in an MS/MA program. You can have your own opinions, sure. But have you taken the time to really research what quality is in an online TESOL program like I have? I build my opinions off of experience and research. Off of what are you building your opinions? Conjecture?
You can sit there and slap links to MA/MS TESOL programs all you want. I'm not going to sit there and tell you if they are good or bad because I have not personally researched them. I have researched a couple and can honestly state that if you are going to go back to North America (i.e. Canada and The U.S.) and look for a job with your "new" credentials, then you had best do your research prior to enrolling in a program.
You should read the other thread that Yeremy, myself, and a few others discussed online MA/MS programs. Then perhaps you will have a better understanding of what I am speaking.
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Pyongshin Sangja
Joined: 20 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Fine, I'm sure that LSE will soon be modeling their graduate programs on Shenandoah State. |
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cubanlord
Joined: 08 Jul 2005
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| Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Pyongshin Sangja wrote: |
| Fine, I'm sure that LSE will soon be modeling their graduate programs on Shenandoah State. |
Pyong,
There is no reason to get mad. As you have pointed out, there are places other than the US that do things differently. That doesn't mean that they are of lesser quality. I just don't want people to base their definition of quality on how long it can take to finish a program. People should be focusing on more important things such as accreditation, length of program, faculty, the rigors of the courses, how long the program has been "alive", available support for faculty and students, etc. |
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Pyongshin Sangja
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Yes, good points all.
I personally think the most important question to ask is, "Are you enjoying the course?"
"Top-ranked school" doesn't always equal "satisfied students." |
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jkelly80
Joined: 13 Jun 2007
Location: you boys like mexico?
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| Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Is there a summer start being offered for this program? |
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aarontendo
Joined: 08 Feb 2006
Location: Daegu-ish
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| Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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| As far as I know you can jump into it anytime, as long as there is room. This semester we're at capacity for the May class. Not sure how things will shape up for the summer though. |
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jkelly80
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| Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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| As far as I know you can jump into it anytime, as long as there is room. This semester we're at capacity for the May class. Not sure how things will shape up for the summer though. |
Good to know. Thanks. |
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aarontendo
Joined: 08 Feb 2006
Location: Daegu-ish
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| Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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I would contact Jason if you're interested in the program, he can let ya know whats going on for summer. He can let ya know what's going on a lot better than the rest of us in the program.
[email protected]
That's his email addy for the program. If ya join us for Summer I'll see ya in August =) |
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