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Are any foreigners here as freaky as this guy?
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bovinerebel



Joined: 27 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Speaking of which ...why are there so many Canadians here ?

It's just I never noticed canada until I came to korea. Now if one doesn't keep their wits about , going by all the Canadians here and references to Canada, they might get the false impression it's some important place you should care about.
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RACETRAITOR



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SuperFly wrote:
Troll_Bait wrote:
RACETRAITOR wrote:
I was going to compare him to Cyclotouriste who foresaw 9/11, but they'd definitely be in good company together.

Actually, Cyclotouriste was freakier, but this guy seems more successful.

The Asia-Pacific bureau chief of Forbes? The next finance minister of Japan? He certainly does sound more harmful than Cyclotouriste.


Who's Cyclotouriste?



Lonely Planet Thorn Tree forums a few years ago...2003 maybe? Caused quite a stir, hilarious stuff, too good to be a troll. I think his name was John Shaw, or the foggy memory of an old man is getting the best of me.


John Gobin Shaw. He taught in Korea for a few years in the '90s, where he educated his adult students with diagrams about how two airplanes could be used to take down the Twin Towers. Somehow he knew about the plans for the attack years before they happened, although nobody remembers him ever mentioning anything. Then he moved back to the US where he made an effort to contact the authorities to warn them of 9/11, but it was more of a "Ha ha, I know something you don't know..." kind of warning.

Then he went in search of a female companion to go cycling with, and things started to get bizarre.

The original thread has been released, but he bowed out of the conversation after telling everyone he was glad 9/11 happened.

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And you just remember this too you bastard. I am the guy who
found out in detail about the plans to attack the WTC, the
pentagon, and the US Capitol on or around 9-11-01.
I have a book in the making right now, and part of it
is on the internet.

The fact is that even if 9-11 had been nuclear, I still would not have warned you bastards
well enough so that you could have done anything to prevent it.
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Fishead soup



Joined: 24 Jun 2007
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RACETRAITOR wrote:
SuperFly wrote:
Troll_Bait wrote:
RACETRAITOR wrote:
I was going to compare him to Cyclotouriste who foresaw 9/11, but they'd definitely be in good company together.

Actually, Cyclotouriste was freakier, but this guy seems more successful.

The Asia-Pacific bureau chief of Forbes? The next finance minister of Japan? He certainly does sound more harmful than Cyclotouriste.


Who's Cyclotouriste?



Lonely Planet Thorn Tree forums a few years ago...2003 maybe? Caused quite a stir, hilarious stuff, too good to be a troll. I think his name was John Shaw, or the foggy memory of an old man is getting the best of me.


John Gobin Shaw. He taught in Korea for a few years in the '90s, where he educated his adult students with diagrams about how two airplanes could be used to take down the Twin Towers. Somehow he knew about the plans for the attack years before they happened, although nobody remembers him ever mentioning anything. Then he moved back to the US where he made an effort to contact the authorities to warn them of 9/11, but it was more of a "Ha ha, I know something you don't know..." kind of warning.

Then he went in search of a female companion to go cycling with, and things started to get bizarre.

The original thread has been released, but he bowed out of the conversation after telling everyone he was glad 9/11 happened.

Quote:

And you just remember this too you bastard. I am the guy who
found out in detail about the plans to attack the WTC, the
pentagon, and the US Capitol on or around 9-11-01.
I have a book in the making right now, and part of it
is on the internet.

The fact is that even if 9-11 had been nuclear, I still would not have warned you bastards
well enough so that you could have done anything to prevent it.


That was Mohammed Ali in Its Happening.

It's Happening used to be so infested with trolls. It was like a train wreck.
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some waygug-in



Joined: 25 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I watched the second video of the bunch. (the first seems to be a short version of the second)

Not sure what to make of this guy. Some of the stuff he says about Japanese education being dumbed down so that people are unable to argue.... Confused Laughing As if it's just in Japan.

This stuff seems to have happened all over Asia (especially Korea) but it seems a common trait of most Confucian societies.

There are many who would argue that the same thing has happened or is happening in the West as well.

Some of his comments about the Japanese view of Western society and government institutions seem about on par for what most westerners feel about their Asian counterparts.

Anyway, some of his comments about the Chinese nuclear capabilities seemed to make sense.
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bacasper



Joined: 26 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 3:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RACETRAITOR wrote:
John Gobin Shaw. He taught in Korea for a few years in the '90s, where he educated his adult students with diagrams about how two airplanes could be used to take down the Twin Towers. Somehow he knew about the plans for the attack years before they happened, although nobody remembers him ever mentioning anything. Then he moved back to the US where he made an effort to contact the authorities to warn them of 9/11, but it was more of a "Ha ha, I know something you don't know..." kind of warning.

Got anything to back that up?
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RACETRAITOR



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 3:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bacasper wrote:
RACETRAITOR wrote:
John Gobin Shaw. He taught in Korea for a few years in the '90s, where he educated his adult students with diagrams about how two airplanes could be used to take down the Twin Towers. Somehow he knew about the plans for the attack years before they happened, although nobody remembers him ever mentioning anything. Then he moved back to the US where he made an effort to contact the authorities to warn them of 9/11, but it was more of a "Ha ha, I know something you don't know..." kind of warning.

Got anything to back that up?


Of course the guy didn't uncover plans for 9/11. He's just delusional, and remembering events wrong.

Unfortunately the original thread and the guy's resume are no longer online, aside from excerpts which I read when they were new.

This is one excerpt from his resume:

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In 1997, while teaching at a college in South Korea, I discovered plans to attack the World Trade Center and the pentagon using commandeered, fuel-laden aircraft, and had told well over 100 people about it in detail in the years before it happened. Of this last statement I do have evidence and proof. My international experiences are more than stated here.


You can read the whole cover letter here, where he talks about being at the release of American hostages in Iran, meeting Barbara Bush and Jimmy Carter, and surviving a train disaster.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/information/29911/Funny!_:)_Cyclotouriste.html

Let me repeat this part of his original threats, which he posted on a Lonely Planet message board.

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And you just remember this too you bastard. I am the guy who
found out in detail about the plans to attack the WTC, the
pentagon, and the US Capitol on or around 9-11-01.
I have a book in the making right now, and part of it
is on the internet.

The fact is that even if 9-11 had been nuclear, I still would not have warned you bastards
well enough so that you could have done anything to prevent it.


And you can read his manuscript here, where he seems to have posted as recently as 2005.
http://www.teenagefanclub.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=19972&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=285
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SuperFly



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Location: In the doghouse

PostPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't believe more of the Korean ESL net crowd doesn't remember that guy.
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bellum99



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: don't need to know

PostPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Man, I remember this guy . John Gobin Shaw went totally wacho on me. I didn't believe what he was saying and he flooded my mesage box with crazy crap. Sometimes I am not very kind when I post and he took it way too seriously. I have strict rules. I don't mess with:

1: Crazy people (John Gobin Shaw)
2: Drunk People
3: Religious Fanatics (could also be Korean Apologists Very Happy )

---All three kinds of people will kill for nothing.
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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bellum99 wrote:
Man, I remember this guy . John Gobin Shaw went totally wacho on me. I didn't believe what he was saying and he flooded my mesage box with crazy crap. Sometimes I am not very kind when I post and he took it way too seriously. I have strict rules. I don't mess with:

1: Crazy people (John Gobin Shaw)
2: Drunk People
3: Religious Fanatics (could also be Korean Apologists Very Happy )

---All three kinds of people will kill for nothing.


Was he ever on this board?
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Miles Rationis



Joined: 08 May 2007
Location: Just Say No To Korea!

PostPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Troll_Bait wrote:
What I meant was: I'm Canadian, so this is embarrassing for me.


You look Korean...
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Fishead soup



Joined: 24 Jun 2007
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 11:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bovinerebel wrote:
Speaking of which ...why are there so many Canadians here ?

It's just I never noticed canada until I came to korea. Now if one doesn't keep their wits about , going by all the Canadians here and references to Canada, they might get the false impression it's some important place you should care about.


Has a lot to do with welfare cutbacks and changes to unemployment insurence. Canada is no longer the generous welfare state it used to be.
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RACETRAITOR



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 11:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bellum99 wrote:
Man, I remember this guy . John Gobin Shaw went totally wacho on me. I didn't believe what he was saying and he flooded my mesage box with crazy crap. Sometimes I am not very kind when I post and he took it way too seriously. I have strict rules. I don't mess with:

1: Crazy people (John Gobin Shaw)
2: Drunk People
3: Religious Fanatics (could also be Korean Apologists Very Happy )

---All three kinds of people will kill for nothing.


Did he call you a poltroon?
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Pyongshin Sangja



Joined: 20 Apr 2003
Location: I love baby!

PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 7:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I sorta remember John Goblin Shaw. I stayed away from him. Anyone remember SDI?
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ReeseDog



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Location: Classified

PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fishead soup wrote:
Canada is no longer the generous welfare state it used to be.


That's not what the rest of the world thinks.
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