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[endo]

I love Korea, but sometimes the nationalists here get on my nerves and I want to see this country ebarassed.




And then I hear the Koreans moan and moan about the evil Japanese. I understand that past Japanese actions in Asia were pretty brutal. But what happened in the past should stay in the past, right? And didn't many Korean colaberate with the Japanese? Wasn't former President Park a former member of the Japanese airforce?


Well then I watched these three videos on youtube over the weekend:

The Rape on Nanking

Part 1...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoW2WYdOsvg

Part 2...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=user&v=iqH47MIpuoA


Unit 731

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAp8bSdE5MQ&feature=user



I still won't blame the current Japanses for the actions of their grandparents. That's not fair to them.

But damn, I do feel the Japanese should at least remove the war criminals from Yakuzuma Shrine.




Anyways, I've read about Nanking and Unit 731, but thoses videos put those past events in a different light. At least for me anyways.

[darkcity]

in my mind, they've more than made up for all these atrocities with the quality of their AV. let's call it even.

[caniff]

[IncognitoHFX]

[rocklee]

The OP is someone who will never find the time to post similar Korean atrocities to the Chinese, Vietnamese, Japanese and neighboring countries. In short he's a tool and a puppet for Korea.
For the people who aren't even Koreans, Japanese or Chinese just give it a rest instead of instigating it.

I've never supported Japan's past but they have more than made up for it since then. People have moved on.

[cangel]

It's funny when people talk out of their @ss. Let me preface by saying I worked 7 years in Japan prior to coming to Korea. That said, the following is true:

The vast majority of Japanese textbooks do teach about Nanking just not in detail and to the extent one might like to see in the west.

Many of the Class-A war criminals at Yasakuni (not Yakuzuma as the OP stated) were convicted by the United States after the war. Some, for example, Gen. Yamashita, was convicted by overzealous American prosecutors with very little evidence to suggest he had anything to do with or knowledge of, the atrocities committed by Japanese troops in the Philippines. Other Class-A war criminals that aren't exactly was criminals are: Muto, Matsuoka, Nagano, Shiratori, Hiranuma, Koiso, and Togo.

Over half of the 14 Class-A war criminals at Yasakuni are no more war criminals than Macarthur. Guilty by association.

There is no doubt that the Japanese did many brutal things to many people. That is not justifiable. However, just look into the atrocities committed by everyone involved in war. Who gets punished? The losers. In all my years in Japan, I did not meet 1 person over the age of 16 that did not know of Japan�s war past. For the OP to say he, �hates� Japan is pure and simple stupidity. There are members of the Diet in Japan who lived through the war and hold some antiquated ideology but do not admonish a nation based on modern day propaganda meant to inflame, not inform.

[mnhnhyouh]

[yawarakaijin]

Just what was the purpose of that one video. "While everything stated is factual we have taken artistic license in the visualization of the events" or something like that. LOL. So here is the truth about what really happened but we are gonna spice it up with scenes from horror movies and other wars just to make it look even more horrible than it really was. Nice.

By the way, the narrarator butchers just about every Japanese word he ever utters. Very obvious he has little knowledge of or exposure to anything Japanese whatsoever. I am not debating the veracity of the text, I've read the book which is cited throughout, but I would hardly call that an educational video. Base your view of modern Japan on that, hate Japan because of that video, and you are a tool.

[endo]

I don't hate Japan. Hardly.


My thread title was done more for attention, then how I really feel about that country.


However, with events like Unit 751, Nanking, ect... one can understand why some to this day would still feel hate towards the Japanese.

War is a brutal thing, but the Japanese seemed to take it a step further.

Although that poses the debate, what is more sickning:

Dropping an A-bomb and killing a 100 thousand civilians? Or entering a city and rapeing, bayoneting, playfully murdering, civilians in close proximity?

What is worse:

Conducting gross experiements like live amputation or forced injection of diseases on live human beings without any pain killers? Or using this material from a captured enemy for your own military, and letting some of those responsible for the horrendous acts go free and go on to make millions of dollars?

[reactionary]

the 20th century was a brutal time. why single out the japanese?

armenian genocide
nazis
firebombing of dresden
rape and pillage by the red army on the way to berlin
hutus and tutsis
killing fields
american (and korean) gis in vietnam


note that most of the things that happened more than 50 years ago have largely been forgiven though not forgotten.

[Captain Corea]

[Dome Vans]

Good post reactionary.

There's no ethics in war. The worst you can do is kill somebody, anything up to that is up to you, no matter how torturous or horrific.

The Americans used nepalm in Iraq....it's illegal......they changed it slightly to get round the legality of using it........they used it anyway.........nepalm really hurts. Surely such an advanced caring nation could pay heed to this? I guess not. Way to go!

[Css]

Should they edit their books to mention how the US pardoned everyone involved with Unit 731 in exchange for their research?

[djsmnc]

That's the market value of it. You guys get all hung up on the humanity of it all. Get out there and grab the world by the balls! It's yours for the taking. People may get hurt or killed in the process, but if you don't get it, one of those foul bastards will. The sh*tstorm isn't going to stop with your bellyaching and treehugging. Get your hands on the prize and if it doesn't come to you out of negotiation then bomb it out!

[genezorm]

"American textbooks have been hacked up and edited in quite similar / sometimes more disturbing ways. The ones I teach out of gloss over all criticism of the United States, praise Dubya and blur all mentions of slavery or warfare in such a PC way as to be more disturbing than obvious"

true that...check out this...it's a good read
http://www.amazon.com/Lies-My-Teacher-Told-Everything/dp/1595583262/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1208235700&sr=8-1
i would like to find one country that has completely objective and unbiased accounts of its own history in elementary and high school texts