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		stillnotking
 
  
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				 Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 10:18 am    Post subject: Republicans talk about Iraq, Obama at N. Ky. dinner | 
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				http://polwatchers.typepad.com/pol_watchers/2008/04/republicans-tal.html
 
 
 
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	  U.S. Rep. Geoff Davis, a Hebron Republican, compared Obama and his message for change similar to a "snake oil salesman."
 
 
He said in his remarks at the GOP dinner that he also recently participated in a "highly classified, national security simulation" with Obama. 
 
 
"I'm going to tell you something: That boy's finger does not need to be on the button," Davis said. "He could not make a decision in that simulation that related to a nuclear threat to this country."
 
 
As for Obama's Democratic rival, McConnell said U.S. Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York seems to be "teetering on the brink."
 
 
"I hear she hasn't been this worried since a new Hooters opened" near her home with former President Bill Clinton, McConnell said, prompting laughs from the 400 Northern Kentucky Republicans. | 
	 
 
 
 
No word on whether the "that boy" remark was a laugh line, but apparently no one got up and left, which would seem to have been indicated.
 
 
Oh, I forgot the "idiots" part.
 
 
 
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	  | "The people we're fighting against now are worse than Adolf Hitler and Nazis. And we don't know where they live, half of them," Bunning said. | 
	 
 
 
 
The Nazis weren't as bad, see, because we knew where they lived.  Hitler's mistake was raising an eighteen-million-soldier Wehrmacht and thereby revealing his position.  The "Islamofascists" will not be repeating this error and are therefore much more dangerous.
 
 
My association with the Democratic Party is tenuous, and my problems with it legion, but incidents like the above highlight why I will never, ever, ever vote for any Republican for national office.  When people like Reps. Davis and King, and Sens. McConnell, Bunning, and Stevens -- men whose personal attitudes are utterly despicable and whose politics range from the nonsensical to the crypto-fascist -- are the ones running the party, I will take no action that results in them receiving a single iota of additional power to influence the course of the nation. | 
			 
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		agentX
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 6:03 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				If you think Rep. Davis is bad, wait till you meet these guys:
 
http://www.republicanoffenders.com/
 
 
 
 
no wait, it's this one.
 
 
 
 
And if you think Rep. Davis' statements were bad, wait till you meet this asshole called Rep. Issa.
 
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5j-7v1hEkqd4GAf2kvups02v7wLtwD8VQOSQ80
 
 
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	  During a joint hearing on Tuesday by two House Judiciary subcommittees considering legislation to extend benefits, Issa described the Sept. 11 attacks as "a fire that had no dirty bomb in it" and added: "It had no chemical munitions in it. It simply was an aircraft, residue of two aircraft and residue of the material used to build this building."
 
 
He questioned "why the firefighters who went there and everyone in the city of New York needs to come to the federal government for the dollars versus, quite frankly, this being primarily a state consideration."
 
 
Issa went on to say that he couldn't vote for additional money for New York "if I can't see why it would be appropriate to do this every single time a similar situation happens which, quite frankly, includes any urban terrorist. It doesn't have to be somebody from al-Qaida. It can be somebody who decides they don't like animal testing at one of our pharmaceutical facilities."
 
 
In opposing the legislation, Issa cited concerns about extending compensation to people who weren't physically injured and didn't work at Ground Zero. The bill would allow people who lived, worked or volunteered in the area to be compensated for psychological as well as physical problems. | 
	 
 
 
 
Democrats aren't that much better, but you don't see them making these sorts of statements on a regular basis. Okay, Clintons aside...
 
 
There is a big push by Democratic supporters to replace corrupt Rethugicans like Sen. Stevens. Stevens is up to his neck in corruption issues.
 
http://www.cqpolitics.com/wmspage.cfm?parm1=5&docID=news-000002691187
 
 
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	   Both lawmakers are seeking re-election while under scrutiny for their ties to an ethics scandal related to Veco Corp., an Alaska oil services company. The investigation into Veco�s activities has so far resulted in the conviction of three state lawmakers, two oil executives and a lobbyist.
 
 
Both Young (the other Alaska Senator) and Stevens have denied wrongdoing but have appeared in the news in relation to the scandal. Stevens� home was raided in July 2007 by the FBI and the IRS, which is looking into whether Veco may have covered home renovation costs for the longtime senator, according to news reports.
 
 
Bill Allen, former chief executive of Veco Corp. and a longtime close associate of Stevens, pleaded guilty to bribing Alaska state lawmakers last May, and it was reported in September that the FBI taped phone conversations between Allen and Stevens.  | 
	 
 
 
 
This is a critical election year with a lot of big name Rethugicans quitting to become lobbyists and/or retiring, plus with a lot of seats open this is a good chance to 'take out the trash'. If you don't like any of the Presidential candidates, fine. You don't have to vote for the big 3. However, don't pass up this chance to replace your unfriendly neighborhood Reich-winger with someone who's not (yet) a crook, racist, or fascist. | 
			 
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		Gopher
 
  
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				 Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 6:27 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				| "Nazis," "crypto-fascists," and "idiots." "Rethugicans" and "Reich-wingers." Harsh stereotyping and demonization. Never seen that before here. | 
			 
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		Pluto
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 6:35 pm    Post subject:  | 
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	  | And it's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way explain their frustrations. | 
	 
 
 
 
I suppose they are just like Barak Obama's typical white grandmother?   
 
 
What is it they say about stones and glass houses? | 
			 
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		Pligganease
 
  
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				 Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 6:43 pm    Post subject:  | 
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	  | "Nazis," "crypto-fascists," and "idiots." "Rethugicans" and "Reich-wingers." Harsh stereotyping and demonization. Never seen that before here. | 
	 
 
 
 
Indeed.  Quite original material, there. | 
			 
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		JMO
 
  
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				 Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 7:03 pm    Post subject:  | 
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	  The Nazis weren't as bad, see, because we knew where they lived. Hitler's mistake was raising an eighteen-million-soldier Wehrmacht and thereby revealing his position. The "Islamofascists" will not be repeating this error and are therefore much more dangerous.
 
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This is pretty funny. I love it when people compare terrorists to Hitler and gang. Ridiculous. | 
			 
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		Enrico Palazzo Mod Team
  
  
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				 Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 7:21 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				Ahem... *clearing the throat*, and how is this thread title different from the stuff IGTG used to post in terms of the title? Would you kindly change the title to something less propagandistic instead of claiming every member of the GOP is this or that.  It doesn't really open much of a two-sided discussion regardless of where you are on the aisle.
 
 
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The said title was edited for it to conform with the TOS. The previous title did not include the title intended by the journalist. It was one thing to quote parts of it and then make a point, but another to post a propagandistic title. The TOS applies to people on both sides of the aisle, or whatever party. On a side note, it does not seem fair to journalists to use their work in such a way without first using their title. Then, you can decide to extrapolate to make whatever point of your choosing. That seems more judicious. Anyway, most of you are doing a fine job. 
 
 
Thank you, 
 
 
The Mod Team...
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		agentX
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 7:37 pm    Post subject:  | 
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	  | "Nazis," "crypto-fascists," and "idiots." "Rethugicans" and "Reich-wingers." Harsh stereotyping and demonization. Never seen that before here. | 
	 
 
 
 
It's not a stereotype if it is true. | 
			 
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		Gopher
 
  
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				 Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 7:53 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				OK. All Democrats are screaming, wild-eyed, Communist, Stalin-loving, terrorist-sympathizing, left-wing, radical, antiAmerican hippies.
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		TheUrbanMyth
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 7:55 pm    Post subject:  | 
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	  | Ahem... *clearing the throat*, and how is this thread title different from the stuff IGTG used to post in terms of the title? Would you kindly change the title to something less propagandistic instead of claiming every member of the GOP is this or that.  It doesn't really open much of a two-sided discussion regardless of where you are on the aisle. | 
	 
 
 
 
Given the OP's title and comments isn't it a pretty far out assumption to think that he is interested in a two-sided discussion?
 
 
I think this quote shows that. " I will never ever ever...  
 
 
He is staking out his position not starting a discussion. | 
			 
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		Pligganease
 
  
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				 Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 8:06 pm    Post subject:  | 
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	  | It's not a stereotype if it is true. | 
	 
 
 
 
And, it can't be true if it's a stereotype.  It's clearly a stereotype.  If you say that it's true, your opinion is invalidated due to ignorance, overwhelming bias, and idiocy. | 
			 
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		Big_Bird
 
  
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				 Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 8:35 pm    Post subject:  | 
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	  | OK. All Democrats are screaming, wild-eyed, Communist, Stalin-loving, terrorist-sympathizing, left-wing, radical, antiAmerican hippies. | 
	 
 
 
 
Only a capitalist-roading fascist rightwinger would consider the Democrats to be leftwing.    
 
 
 
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		Gopher
 
  
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				 Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 8:43 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				Hush woman. Into the kitchen, where you belong, and take your shoes off...
 
 
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		Pligganease
 
  
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	  Hush woman. Into the kitchen, where you belong, and take your shoes off...
 
 
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Now, now.  Knock that off or you'll be called a "sexist!" | 
			 
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		JMO
 
  
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				 Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 8:46 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				| I love Americans with their right wing, left wing crap. Both your parties are slightly right of center. Neither of them are right or left wing. | 
			 
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