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| Do you serve Mighty Lucifer? |
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fiveeagles
Joined: 19 May 2005
Location: Vancouver
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Don't worry, it's going to get a lot better! |
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ceesgetdegrees
Joined: 12 Jul 2007
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| Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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| yawarakaijin wrote: |
| Justin Hale wrote: |
| Still can't tell if you're kidding |
I voted yes just so he could feel valued. |
And because you don't want to fry right....don't put on the tough guy facade.
A man gets sent to hell and is given the tour by beelzebub. He's told that he can choose to spend eternity in one of three rooms. The first room has a guy in it with crap up to his neck, the second room has a guy in it with crap up to his waist and the third room has a guy in it with crap up to his knees. The devil ask's him...so....which room then? the guy with a beaming grin figuring that this hell lark isn't as bad as it's cracked up to be answer's "room 3" to which he is sent. Five minutes later a voice comes over the intercom...."lunchtime over motherfuckers....get back and assume the handstand position now!"
Do you want to be a crap eater op? Well....do you? |
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Big_Bird
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: Sometimes here sometimes there...
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| Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 11:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Justin Hale wrote: |
| Big_Bird wrote: |
And from one of Mr Hale's favourite bands:
Have you ever thought about your soul - can it be saved?
Or perhaps you think that when you're dead you just stay in your grave
Is God just a thought within your head or is he a part of you?
Is Christ just a name that you read in a book when you were in school?
When you think about death do you lose your breath or
Do you keep your cool?
Would you like to see the pope on the end of a rope
Do you think he's a fool?
Well I have seen the truth, yes I've seen the light and I've changed my ways
And I'll be prepared when youre lonely and scared at the end of our days
Could it be youre afraid of what your friends might say
If they knew you believe in God above?
They should realize before they criticize
That God is the only way to love
Is your mind so small that you have to fall
In with the pack wherever they run
Will you still sneer when death is near
And say they may as well worship the sun?
I think it was true it was people like you that crucified Christ
I think it is sad the opinion you had was the only one voiced
Will you be so sure when your day is near, say you dont believe?
You had the chance but you turned it down, now you can't retrieve
Perhaps you'll think before you say that God is dead and gone
Open your eyes, just realize that he's the one
The only one who can save you now from all this sin and hate
Or will you still jeer at all you hear? Yes! I think it's too late. |
That's an extremely well-written song and of course the music is excellent as all Black Sabbath's first 6 albums are, but it's horribly unsophisticated from the perspective of morality. As such, I see no reason at all to stop serving Mighty Lucifer at this stage. 
XTC nailed it:
| XTC wrote: |
And all the world is biscuit shaped.
It's all for me to feed my face.
Trying to take this all in.
I've got one, two, three, four, five,
Senses working overtime |
So too did Dr Faustus:
| Christopher Marlowe wrote: |
Nature that fram�d us of four elements,
Warring within our breasts for regiment,
Doth teach us all to have aspiring minds |
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The XTC song is always pleasant to hear, but nothing on the level of the excellent Sabbath.
This one also fits the theme of your thread, though I doubt you'll heed its message, you wicked heathen, you!
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You're searching for your mind, don't know where to start
Cant find the key to fit the lock on your heart
You think you know but you are never quite sure
Your soul is ill but you will not find a cure.
Your world was made for you by someone above
But you choose evil ways instead of love.
You made me master of the world where you exist
The soul I took from you was not even missed.
Lord of this world
Evil possessor
Lord of this world
He's your confessor now!
You think you're innocent you've nothing to fear
You don't know me you say but isnt it clear?
You turn to me in all your worldly greed and pride.
But will you turn to me when its your turn to die? |
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anyangoldboy
Joined: 28 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 12:27 am Post subject: |
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| Not only do I serve him but I bend over and take it from him. |
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Justin Hale
Joined: 24 Nov 2007
Location: the Straight Talk Express
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| Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 2:31 am Post subject: |
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Big Bird,
those two songs - After Forever and Lord of this World are both off of the Into the Void album and I assume Ozzy was going through a religious phase at the time. Elsewhere, Ozzy serves Mighty Lucifer with his drug-use, promiscuity, alcoholism and totally blasphemous horror movie-style Rock. Again though, whilst Ozzy's lyrics are well-written, they do rather display his working class (downright poor) origins in Birmingham and lack of education. You're presumably just being jolly with your Sabbath songs rather than advocating theism, but I just thought I'd say.
| Ceesgetdegrees wrote: |
And because you don't want to fry right....don't put on the tough guy facade.
A man gets sent to hell and is given the tour by beelzebub. He's told that he can choose to spend eternity in one of three rooms. The first room has a guy in it with crap up to his neck, the second room has a guy in it with crap up to his waist and the third room has a guy in it with crap up to his knees. The devil ask's him...so....which room then? the guy with a beaming grin figuring that this hell lark isn't as bad as it's cracked up to be answer's "room 3" to which he is sent. Five minutes later a voice comes over the intercom...."lunchtime over motherfuckers....get back and assume the handstand position now!"
Do you want to be a crap eater op? Well....do you? |
I love it!  Again, though apparently serious, you make the reader laugh his or her ass off. However, I must ask....is the devil doing God's work by whupping sinners' asses? Or does God disaprove? This is important. According to scripture, the devil punishes in accordance with God's sentence to Hell, but it's totally unclear how Satan can be a rebel of God if he punishes in accordance with God's wishes. Surely, logically, Hell must be full of sex, drugs and rock and roll - in other words, reward for 'sin' - rather than suffering and punishment?
| anyangoldboy wrote: |
| Not only do I serve him but I bend over and take it from him. |
Nobody loves and serves Mighty Lucifer more than I, but the above is excessive, surely? |
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Big_Bird
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: Sometimes here sometimes there...
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| Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 2:41 am Post subject: |
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| Just inHaling the fiery smoke of hell wrote: |
Big Bird,
those two songs - After Forever and Lord of this World are both off of the Into the Void album and I assume Ozzy was going through a religious phase at the time. Elsewhere, Ozzy serves Mighty Lucifer with his drug-use, promiscuity, alcoholism and totally blasphemous horror movie-style Rock. Again though, whilst Ozzy's lyrics are well-written, they do rather display his working class (downright poor) origins in Birmingham and lack of education. You're presumably just being jolly with your Sabbath songs rather than advocating theism, but I just thought I'd say. |
Ozzy had nothing to do with it, as far as I know. He probably choked on the lyrics, the first time he had to sing them. I believe it was Tony Iommi (the guitarist) who wrote them. Could be wrong though - other posters are welcome to correct me if I'm wrong.
| The imperiled soul wrote: |
| Ceesgetdegrees wrote: |
And because you don't want to fry right....don't put on the tough guy facade.
A man gets sent to hell and is given the tour by beelzebub. He's told that he can choose to spend eternity in one of three rooms. The first room has a guy in it with crap up to his neck, the second room has a guy in it with crap up to his waist and the third room has a guy in it with crap up to his knees. The devil ask's him...so....which room then? the guy with a beaming grin figuring that this hell lark isn't as bad as it's cracked up to be answer's "room 3" to which he is sent. Five minutes later a voice comes over the intercom...."lunchtime over motherfuckers....get back and assume the handstand position now!"
Do you want to be a crap eater op? Well....do you? |
I love it! Again, though apparently serious, you make the reader laugh his or her ass off. However, I must ask....is the devil doing God's work by whupping sinners' asses? Or does God disaprove? This is important. According to scripture, the devil punishes in accordance with God's sentence to Hell, but it's totally unclear how Satan can be a rebel of God if he punishes in accordance with God's wishes. Surely, logically, Hell must be full of sex, drugs and rock and roll - in other words, reward for 'sin' - rather than suffering and punishment? |
Actually, I think modern interpretations of the bible say that the burning in hellfire stuff is a load of old cobblers. God lets you die, then on judgement day, if you've been good and minded your manners, you're allowed to wake up again and have some fun, but if you've been a naughty buggeer, you have to stay sleeping in your grave.
| Doubting Thomas wrote: |
| anyangoldboy wrote: |
| Not only do I serve him but I bend over and take it from him. |
Nobody loves and serves Mighty Lucifer more than I, but the above is excessive, surely? |
Sometimes duty is also a pleasure. For some. |
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Justin Hale
Joined: 24 Nov 2007
Location: the Straight Talk Express
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| Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 2:57 am Post subject: |
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| Big_Bird wrote: |
Ozzy had nothing to do with it, as far as I know. He probably choked on the lyrics, the first time he had to sing them. I believe it was Tony Iommi (the guitarist) who wrote them. Could be wrong though - other posters are welcome to correct me if I'm wrong. |
I was under the impression Ozzy wrote all the lyrics, but I'm not sure either. Whoever wrote them displays natural articulacy - a great thing - yet lack of education and complete misunderstanding of reality - a bad thing.
| Big Bird wrote: |
| Actually, I think modern interpretations of the bible say that the burning in hellfire stuff is a load of old cobblers. God lets you die, then on judgement day, if you've been good and minded your manners, you're allowed to wake up again and have some fun, but if you've been a naughty buggeer, you have to stay sleeping in your grave. |
Modern interpretations of the Bible are as risible as they are erroneous and, according to true Christians like the Westboro Baptist Church who take the scripture entirely literally as one ought (since by what standards does one cherry pick the Bible?), are gonna see the adherent wind up in Hell with Mighty Lucifer, me and Heavy Metal. |
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Big_Bird
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: Sometimes here sometimes there...
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| Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 3:05 am Post subject: |
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| Justin Hale wrote: |
| Big_Bird wrote: |
Ozzy had nothing to do with it, as far as I know. He probably choked on the lyrics, the first time he had to sing them. I believe it was Tony Iommi (the guitarist) who wrote them. Could be wrong though - other posters are welcome to correct me if I'm wrong. |
I was under the impression Ozzy wrote all the lyrics, but I'm not sure either. Whoever wrote them displays natural articulacy - a great thing - yet lack of education and complete misunderstanding of reality - a bad thing. |
We'll have to check that one out then. I am 99% sure that Iommi was responsible for those particular lyrics though.
| The doomed fan of metal wrote: |
| The fabulously knowledgable Big Bird wrote: |
| Actually, I think modern interpretations of the bible say that the burning in hellfire stuff is a load of old cobblers. God lets you die, then on judgement day, if you've been good and minded your manners, you're allowed to wake up again and have some fun, but if you've been a naughty buggeer, you have to stay sleeping in your grave. |
Modern interpretations of the Bible are as risible as they are erroneous and, according to true Christians like the Westboro Baptist Church who take the scripture entirely literally as one ought (since by what standards does one cherry pick the Bible?), are gonna see the adherent wind up in Hell with Mighty Lucifer, me and Heavy Metal. |
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Actually, I didn't make myself very clear. Scholars have gone back and looked at earlier translations (remember the bible was translated into this language then from that language to that language and from that the next and so on) and now reckon it to be a misunderstanding on behalf of earlier translaters. |
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Justin Hale
Joined: 24 Nov 2007
Location: the Straight Talk Express
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| Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 3:11 am Post subject: |
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It'd be great to see - from a fan's perspective - who wrote those lyrics, but it remains the case that the author had severe misunderstandings about the cosmos and the evolution of life on Earth - thanks to their poor upbringing and lack of education.
As for the mistranslations of the Bible, develop your point! |
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yawarakaijin
Joined: 08 Aug 2006
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| Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 9:17 am Post subject: |
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| ceesgetdegrees wrote: |
| yawarakaijin wrote: |
| Justin Hale wrote: |
| Still can't tell if you're kidding |
I voted yes just so he could feel valued. |
And because you don't want to fry right....don't put on the tough guy facade.
A man gets sent to hell and is given the tour by beelzebub. He's told that he can choose to spend eternity in one of three rooms. The first room has a guy in it with crap up to his neck, the second room has a guy in it with crap up to his waist and the third room has a guy in it with crap up to his knees. The devil ask's him...so....which room then? the guy with a beaming grin figuring that this hell lark isn't as bad as it's cracked up to be answer's "room 3" to which he is sent. Five minutes later a voice comes over the intercom...."lunchtime over motherfuckers....get back and assume the handstand position now!"
Do you want to be a crap eater op? Well....do you? |
Did i miss something? The poll asks if one serves Lucifer. I voted yes, how does that save me from frying? What perspective are we coming from? A vote for Jesus saves me from hell or a vote for Satan gets me in his good books so he doesn't fry me up too bad once I'm down there? |
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ceesgetdegrees
Joined: 12 Jul 2007
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| Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 4:17 pm Post subject: |
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| yawarakaijin wrote: |
| ceesgetdegrees wrote: |
| yawarakaijin wrote: |
| Justin Hale wrote: |
| Still can't tell if you're kidding |
I voted yes just so he could feel valued. |
And because you don't want to fry right....don't put on the tough guy facade.
A man gets sent to hell and is given the tour by beelzebub. He's told that he can choose to spend eternity in one of three rooms. The first room has a guy in it with crap up to his neck, the second room has a guy in it with crap up to his waist and the third room has a guy in it with crap up to his knees. The devil ask's him...so....which room then? the guy with a beaming grin figuring that this hell lark isn't as bad as it's cracked up to be answer's "room 3" to which he is sent. Five minutes later a voice comes over the intercom...."lunchtime over motherfuckers....get back and assume the handstand position now!"
Do you want to be a crap eater op? Well....do you? |
Did i miss something? The poll asks if one serves Lucifer. I voted yes, how does that save me from frying? What perspective are we coming from? A vote for Jesus saves me from hell or a vote for Satan gets me in his good books so he doesn't fry me up too bad once I'm down there? |
OOppsss! My mistake, you are well and truly fucked. Glad to be of service and remember, god loves you! |
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mindmetoo
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Big_Bird
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: Sometimes here sometimes there...
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Justin Hale
Joined: 24 Nov 2007
Location: the Straight Talk Express
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| Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 5:22 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the Master of Reality info. Also, let's see Under the sun from Black Sabbath Vol 4:
| Black Sabbath wrote: |
Well I don't want no jesus freak to tell me what it's all about
No black magician telling me to cut my soul out
Don't believe in violence, I don't even believe in your peace
I've opened the door now; my mind has been released
Well I don't want no preacher telling me about the god in thesky
No I don't want no one to tell me where I'm gonna go when I die
I wanna live my life; I don't want people telling me what to do
I just believe in myself, 'cause no one else is true
Every day just comes and goes
Life is one big overdose
People try to ruinte
I can see through their frustration
People hiding their real face
Keep on running their rat race
The ante is risen once a week
In their world of make-believe
So believe what I tell you, it's the only way to fight in theend
Just believe in yourself, you know you really shouldn't have topretend
Don't let those empty people try and interfere with your mind
Just live your life and leave them all behind
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Regarding the Bible, it doesn't appear to matter, since it's absolute hooey from start to finish what ever! |
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Big_Bird
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: Sometimes here sometimes there...
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| Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 5:30 pm Post subject: |
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Well, that one is the one I can better imagine Mr Hale singing (most probably drunkenly) in the shower, yes.
Vol 4, one of my favourites. I'll have to dig that out (CDs have been hidden from my hooligan offspring) this weekend. Now I have a real fancy to hear Supernaut and Snowblind - again and again, played up at volume 11! |
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