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Adventurer
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 Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 8:29 am Post subject: Report: Netanyahu says 9/11 terror attacks good for Israel |
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Report: Netanyahu says 9/11 terror attacks good for Israel
By Haaretz Service and Reuters
Tags: Israel, Benjamin Netanyahu
The Israeli newspaper Ma'ariv on Wednesday reported that Likud leader Benjamin Netanyahu told an audience at Bar Ilan university that the September 11, 2001 terror attacks had been beneficial for Israel.
"We are benefiting from one thing, and that is the attack on the Twin Towers and Pentagon, and the American struggle in Iraq," Ma'ariv quoted the former prime minister as saying. He reportedly added that these events "swung American public opinion in our favor."
Netanyahu reportedly made the comments during a conference at Bar-Ilan University on the division of Jerusalem as part of a peace deal with the Palestinians.
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Meanwhile, Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad cast doubt over the veracity of the September 11 attacks Thursday, calling it a pretext to invade Afghanistan and Iraq.
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On the other hand
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| Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 11:46 am Post subject: |
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I think Netanyahu might actually be wrong about this.
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"We are benefiting from one thing, and that is the attack on the Twin Towers and Pentagon, and the American struggle in Iraq," Ma'ariv quoted the former prime minister as saying. He reportedly added that these events "swung American public opinion in our favor."
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I'm not an expert on American public opinion, but it does seem to me that most of the rhetoric I've heard along the lines of 'If you're against Al Qaeda you gotta be for Israel" is coming from people who were already hardcore pro-Israeli before 9-11. I haven't heard too many people saying "well, you know, I used to be kind of ambivalent about Israel, but after 9-11 I'm behind them all way".
Of course, a lot of the politicians and media types who are most pro-Israeli are also the most fired-up about the War On Terror and the Iraq war. But I'm not really sure if that proves a causal connection between the two positions.
Just my observations. |
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catman
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| Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 1:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Netanyahu just gave the conspiracy theorists more ammo. |
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bacasper
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| Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 10:00 pm Post subject: |
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| catman wrote: |
| Netanyahu just gave the conspiracy theorists more ammo. |
Funny how facts keep doing that. |
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catman
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| Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 10:34 pm Post subject: |
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| bacasper wrote: |
| catman wrote: |
| Netanyahu just gave the conspiracy theorists more ammo. |
Funny how facts keep doing that. |
What is the fact in this case though? That the Jews blew up the buildings so the US would invade Iraq? |
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bacasper
Joined: 26 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 12:21 am Post subject: |
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| catman wrote: |
| bacasper wrote: |
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| Netanyahu just gave the conspiracy theorists more ammo. |
Funny how facts keep doing that. |
What is the fact in this case though? That the Jews blew up the buildings so the US would invade Iraq? |
That it is good for Israel, or at least that is what Netanyahu says. |
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Adventurer
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| Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 8:46 am Post subject: |
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Well, some people point to the fact that many of the neo-cons were Jews with ties to Israel. That is true. Some even had ties to Netanyahu's Likudniks. There is no denying that, but they only helped reinforce the thinking of the neo-cons who were gentiles like Rumsfeld and Cheney.
September 11th, in Netanyahu's view has helped increase more of an antipathy against Arabs and Muslims and making it more fashionable for people to not be so sympathtic vis-a-vis the Palestinians who received a lot of sympathy in the 1980s. Netanyahu finds sympathy for the Palestinians and their political aspirations a danger to his party's programme. |
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Gopher
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| Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 9:58 am Post subject: |
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| bacasper wrote: |
| ...it is good for Israel, or at least that is what Netanyahu says. |
But this is circumstantial thinking. Some say Israel benefitted; therefore Israel must have had something to do with it.
I disagree with the "Look-who-benefitted-to-discover-who-did-it" line of reasoning. For one thing, not all results or consequences are intended results or consequences. People, politicians, govts are not so masterly in control of world or even national affairs as the conspiracy theorists' worldview holds. No room for contingent agency in such a worldview. And Catman might have modified his comment and said something more like this: conspiracy theorists will now believe themselves more justified in claiming what they claim re: 9/11.
As far as the American academe goes, most if not all American academics thoroughly and actively hate Israel. I even know one who calls it "the country that cannot be named." Nothing will change that. |
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RJjr
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We were attacked because of the money and weapons we give Israel. Paul Wolfowitz, Douglas Feith, George Tenet, Elliott Abrams and other Jewish traitors to America are bankrupting us in Iraq and now they even want us to fight Iran for them after Israel's military couldn't stay in the ring for even five weeks with 3000 Lebanese part-time militiamen trained by Iran.
Al Qaeda and Israel are both partially responsible for the current epidemic of Americans losing their homes. And bin Laden and Netanyahu are both talking about how good it is that the Arab-Israeli conflict has spread to America.
F' Arab terrorists and F' Israel. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
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We were attacked because of the money and weapons we give Israel. Paul Wolfowitz, Douglas Feith, George Tenet, Elliott Abrams and other Jewish traitors to America are bankrupting us in Iraq and now they even want us to fight Iran for them after Israel's military couldn't stay in the ring for even five weeks with 3000 Lebanese part-time militiamen trained by Iran.
Al Qaeda and Israel are both partially responsible for the current epidemic of Americans losing their homes. And bin Laden and Netanyahu are both talking about how good it is that the Arab-Israeli conflict has spread to America.
F' Arab terrorists and F' Israel. |
What Al Qaeda fights for :
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al-Qa'ida (The Base)
Qaedat al-Jihad
Islamic Army for the Liberation of the Holy Places
World Islamic Front for Jihad Against Jews and Crusaders
Islamic Salvation Foundation
Usama bin Laden Network
Al-Qa'ida is multi-national, with members from numerous countries and with a worldwide presence. Senior leaders in the organization are also senior leaders in other terrorist organizations, including those designated by the Department of State as foreign terrorist organizations, such as the Egyptian al-Gama'at al-Islamiyya and the Egyptian al-Jihad. Al-Qa'ida seeks a global radicalization of existing Islamic groups and the creation of radical Islamic groups where none exist.
Al-Qa'ida supports Muslim fighters in Afghanistan, Bosnia, Chechnya, Tajikistan, Somalia, Yemen, and Kosovo. It also trains members of terrorist organizations from such diverse countries as the Philippines, Algeria, and Eritrea.
Al-Qa'ida's goal is to "unite all Muslims and to establish a government which follows the rule of the Caliphs." Bin Laden has stated that the only way to establish the Caliphate is by force. Al-Qa'ida's goal, therefore, is to overthrow nearly all Muslim governments, which are viewed as corrupt, to drive Western influence from those countries, and eventually to abolish state boundaries.
Description
Established by Usama Bin Ladin in the late 1980s to bring together Arabs who fought in Afghanistan against the Soviet Union. Helped finance, recruit, transport, and train Sunni Islamic extremists for the Afghan resistance. Current goal is to establish a pan-Islamic Caliphate throughout the world by working with allied Islamic extremist groups to overthrow regimes it deems Non-Islamic?and expelling Westerners and non-Muslims from Muslim countries particularly Saudi Arabia. Issued statement under banner of the World Islamic Front for Jihad Against the Jews and Crusaders?in February 1998, saying it was the duty of all Muslims to kill US citizens civilian or militaryand their allies everywhere. Merged with Egyptian Islamic Jihad (Al-Jihad) in June 2001. |
http://www.fas.org/irp/world/para/ladin.htm
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| CAIRO (AP) � Al-Qaeda's No. 2 leader issued a worldwide call Thursday for Muslims to rise up in a holy war against Israel and join the fighting in Lebanon and Gaza until Islam reigns from "Spain to Iraq." |
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2006-07-27-zawahri-warning_x.htm |
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bacasper
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| Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Gopher wrote: |
| bacasper wrote: |
| ...it is good for Israel, or at least that is what Netanyahu says. |
But this is circumstantial thinking. Some say Israel benefitted; therefore Israel must have had something to do with it. |
I disagree with the "Look-who-benefitted-to-discover-who-did-it" line of reasoning. For one thing, not all results or consequences are intended results or consequences. People, politicians, govts are not so masterly in control of world or even national affairs as the conspiracy theorists' worldview holds. No room for contingent agency in such a worldview. And Catman might have modified his comment and said something more like this: conspiracy theorists will now believe themselves more justified in claiming what they claim re: 9/11.[/quote]
Sometimes, all you have is circumstantial evidence. While it may not be enough to prove to courtroom standards (i.e. it remains "plausibly deniable"), when you have enough of it (and I am NOT saying there is yet to blame Israel; OTOH, it shoudl not come as a total surprise if there is), it is hard to conclude otherwise. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's a duck.
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| As far as the American academe goes, most if not all American academics thoroughly and actively hate Israel. I even know one who calls it "the country that cannot be named." Nothing will change that. |
I think you are right about this, but then why are so many hesitant to put their names to pro-Palestinian actions? |
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nicholas_chiasson
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| Inventing Penecillin means you can cure syphillis. Therefore Fleming was in cahoots with the prostitutes! |
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TheUrbanMyth
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| Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 4:37 am Post subject: |
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| bacasper wrote: |
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| ...it is good for Israel, or at least that is what Netanyahu says. |
But this is circumstantial thinking. Some say Israel benefitted; therefore Israel must have had something to do with it. |
I disagree with the "Look-who-benefitted-to-discover-who-did-it" line of reasoning. For one thing, not all results or consequences are intended results or consequences. People, politicians, govts are not so masterly in control of world or even national affairs as the conspiracy theorists' worldview holds. No room for contingent agency in such a worldview. And Catman might have modified his comment and said something more like this: conspiracy theorists will now believe themselves more justified in claiming what they claim re: 9/11. |
Sometimes, all you have is circumstantial evidence. While it may not be enough to prove to courtroom standards (i.e. it remains "plausibly deniable"), when you have enough of it (and I am NOT saying there is yet to blame Israel; OTOH, it shoudl not come as a total surprise if there is), it is hard to conclude otherwise. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's a duck.
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And yet, despite all the evidence your group claims to have collected, it is ALL circumstantial. You have no cold hard facts that would lead to Bush's impeachment or anything along those lines. One would think that the lack of such evidence time and time again would make any rational person give up. |
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Ya-ta Boy
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| Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 4:58 am Post subject: |
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| Funny how facts keep doing that. |
All he said was that Israel has benefited. That does not constitute evidence of Israeli involvement. Disconnect some of your dots. |
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bacasper
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| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
| bacasper wrote: |
| Gopher wrote: |
| bacasper wrote: |
| ...it is good for Israel, or at least that is what Netanyahu says. |
But this is circumstantial thinking. Some say Israel benefitted; therefore Israel must have had something to do with it.
I disagree with the "Look-who-benefitted-to-discover-who-did-it" line of reasoning. For one thing, not all results or consequences are intended results or consequences. People, politicians, govts are not so masterly in control of world or even national affairs as the conspiracy theorists' worldview holds. No room for contingent agency in such a worldview. And Catman might have modified his comment and said something more like this: conspiracy theorists will now believe themselves more justified in claiming what they claim re: 9/11. |
Sometimes, all you have is circumstantial evidence. While it may not be enough to prove to courtroom standards (i.e. it remains "plausibly deniable"), when you have enough of it (and I am NOT saying there is yet to blame Israel; OTOH, it shoudl not come as a total surprise if there is), it is hard to conclude otherwise. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's a duck.
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And yet, despite all the evidence your group claims to have collected, it is ALL circumstantial. You have no cold hard facts that would lead to Bush's impeachment or anything along those lines. One would think that the lack of such evidence time and time again would make any rational person give up. |
'My' group? WTF are you talking about? I came here by myself.
But since you brought it up, a 2007 poll showed between 39 and 45% of Americans favored impeachment of Bush, but that goes up in certain areas,e.g. 75% of the residents of Stockbridge, Mass. signed a petition to impeach Bush and presented it to their Rep. Olver who refused to introduce Articles of Impeachment because of the real possibility that Bush would declare martial law and cancel the election.
And you are right that I have no cold and hard facts to impeach Bush - except for these:
As you read through the following evidence, please bear in mind a couple of key points.
1. We didn't need any of it, or any of the previous year's evidence. We've had enough solid evidence for a 5-minute slam-dunk (than you, George) impeachment for years now. Here are the highlights: http://afterdowningstreet.org/keydocuments
2. While none of this is about sex, and all good impeachments simply must be about sex, we have learned in recent years of CIA prostitute parties and Halliburton gang rapes. And if that's not enough to convince you that something is rotten in the state of the Homeland, we learned in 2007 that (quick, cover your children's eyes) . . . "Bush Promised to Kiss Blair's Ass."
http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/24493
SECRECY AND COVERUPS
Here is a collection of the outstanding subpoenas yet to be obeyed:
http://democrats.com/subpoenas
Here are a few choice related headlines with links to the articles you'll want to savor as you look back across the past year of not having a clue what your government was up to:
A National Archives official reveals what the veep wanted to keep classified--and how he tried to challenge the rules
http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/29579
Cheney Won't Even Say Who Works in His Office
http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/17866
Bush Won't Say Where His Prisons Are
http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/21434
Vice President Exempts His Office from the Requirements for Protecting Classified Information
http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/23834
Bush Claims Oversight Exemption Too
http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/23932
Bush Orders Miers Not to Testify
http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/24568
Justice Dept. to White House officials: Ignore Congress
http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/24585
Whistle-blowers Face Punishment in Iraq; Contractors Say U.S. Military Jailed, Tortured Them for Reporting Fraud
http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/26094
SIGNING STATEMENTS AND ASSERTIONS OF DICTATORIAL POWER
2007 was the year of the unitary executive, as Congress and the courts largely stepped out of the picture. And the unitary executive had a lot of executivizing to do:
New Report Shows Bush's Presidential Signing Statements Have Been Used to Nullify Laws
http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/23764
New Index of Presidential Signing Statements
http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/26476
Cheney Exempts His Office from Requirement to Protect Classified Information
http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/23834
Cheney Destroys Visitor Logs
http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/23085
A New Dick Cheney-Alberto Gonzales Mystery
http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/23979
Bush Anoints Himself as the Insurer of Constitutional Government in Emergency
http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/22710
Bush Uses Signing Statement to Announce Refusal to Obey New Military Appropriations Law
http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/29071
TURNING GOVERNMENT AGENCIES INTO REPUBLICAN PARTY MACHINE
This was the big new story of 2007, and Congress does get some credit for stirring the dirt on this one. It turns out that most of the executive branch of the government now works for the Republican party. U.S. attorneys who had failed to grasp that fact were fired. Emails that exposed it were destroyed. State governors who got in the way became political prisoners. And an intellectually challenged Attorney General who could take orders but not remember what he'd had for breakfast was scared out of town after committing perjury on television. His bosses laughed and replaced him with a clone. Congress complied.
Not that Congress wasn't very, very concerned. In fact, Rep. Henry Waxman alone destroyed a forest writing letters to the White House and publishing reports like this one:
http://oversight.house.gov/documents/20070618105243.pdf
By the end of 2007 I saw an editorial cartoon in the paper with holiday lights on the White House spelling out: "No Comment: Ongoing Investigation." A man in the cartoon commented: "They just leave them up all year now." These were some of the choice headlines from 2007 on the your-tax-dollars-pay-for-the-Republican-Party theme:
Administration Withheld Emails About Rove
http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/22360
GSA Chief Is Accused of Playing Politics
http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/20480
DOJ Made Immigration Judgeships Political
http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/22965
New Justice Department documents show White House involvement in Attorneys firings
http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/23628
Legal Memo Confirms White House Led Effort To Target And Remove U.S. Attorneys
http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/24124
Politicization of the White House Office of National Drug Control Policy
http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/24781
Conyers' Staff Documents More Crimes and Abuses, But He Still Won't Impeach
http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/25054
Emails Detail RNC Voter Suppression in Five States
http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/25135
Commerce, Treasury Funds Helped Boost GOP Campaigns
http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/25929
State Department Agents Say Jobs Were Threatened
http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/27292
The United States Attorneys Scandal Comes to Mississippi
http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/27631
Daughter of jailed governor sees White House hand in her father's fall
http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/28972
Bush Tries to Seize Control of Military Lawyers
http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/29429
(Here's Why) Meet Tom Fiscus
http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/29041
White House Illegally Deleted Over TEN MILLION Emails
http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/29258
ELECTION FRAUD
Of course, the point is to continue stealing elections. But some of the past crimes of that nature continued to bubble up unnoticed in 2007:
Former DoJ Attorneys Accuse Bush Admin of Restricting African American Vote
http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/21712
Ohio Secretary of State confirms 2004 election could have been stolen
http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/29380
NH Phone jamming scheme
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/20/rnc-phone-jamming-doj/
SPYING
What would a 21st century year be without further shredding of the Fourth Amendment? Bush opened it with a bang by seizing a power Hitler too had seized early on: the power to open your mail.
http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/16946
It was all downhill without resistance from there.
NY Times: "Dick Cheney sent Mr. Gonzales and another official to Mr. Ashcroft�s hospital room to get him to approve the wiretapping."
http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/25214
Unimpeachably Impeachable
http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/24216
Cheney Urged Illegal Wiretaps
http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/23408
Ashcroft's ex-no. 2 says Gonzales, Cheney tried to take advantage of sick Attorney General.
http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/22509
Two FBI Whistleblowers Confirm Illegal Wiretapping of Government Officials and Misuse of FISA
http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/19269
Bush Decides to Continue FISA Violations After All
http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/22086
Bush Dodges Comey�s Accusations That He Personally Arranged Ashcroft Hospital Visit
http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/22623
FBI Finds It Frequently Overstepped in Collecting Data
http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/23655
New NSA Whistleblower Speaks
http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/24183
IRS tracked taxpayers� political affiliation
http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/24415
Cheney On Whether He Ordered Hospital Visit To Ashcroft: I Have �No Recollection�
http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/25295
Bush "Authorized" Illegal Spying Programs
http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/25344
Collecting of Details on Travelers Documented
http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/27060
White House Spy Docs Show Surveillance Was Illegal, Senator Feingold Charges
http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/27848
GLOBAL WARMING
Now, admittedly there's no clause in the Constitution banning the warming of the planet, but 2007 was chock full of headlines like this one, that weren't really news, but were louder than they'd been before:
Over 4.5 Billion people could die from Global Warming-related causes by 2012
http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/17148
It's that sort of thing that makes these headlines fit into the crime section:
Cheney Bypassed Environmentally �Clueless� Bush To Craft Administration�s Climate Change Agenda
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/23/cheney-climate-clueless/
Scientists 'pressured on climate findings'
http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/17993
Ex-Bush Official: I Fixed The (Climate) Facts Around The Policy
http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/20207
The Secret Campaign of President Bush's Administration to Deny Global Warming
http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/23938
Not an environment scare story
http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/28262
CALIFORNIA ENERGY CRISIS: NEW EVIDENCE
Here's an oldie but goodie that came back for a cameo:
Cheney Suppressed Evidence in California Energy Crisis
http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/24875
ONGOING INTENTIONAL DESTRUCTION OF NEW ORLEANS
2007 closed out with the use of tazers and brutal crowd repression in New Orleans as people protested the ongoing intentional destruction of good housing. There was also this:
Two Years After Katrina, Billions in Relief Funds Are Missing
http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/26123
LYING TO CONGRESS AND PUBLIC IN STATE OF THE UNION - AN ANNUAL RITUAL
Bush began 2007 with a claim in a State of the Union Address that he had thwarted a number of terrorist plots. They all turned out to be fictional:
http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/17806
When no corporate media other than Keith Olbermann called Bush on his lies, he must have felt empowered to tell more:
Transcripts show evidence against Muslim charity fabricated
http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/18982
Bush-Cheney Blocked and Falsified Reports on Health and Medicine
http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/24538
Your Tax Dollars Are Used to Tell You Lies
http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/25828
Bush Used Bogus Terror Threat To Scare Votes For FISA Bill
http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/27129
Oh, and you know that one about "America does not torture"? It looks like Bush watched the missing torture tapes before saying that:
http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/29596
And this one just won't go away:
France (and CIA) knew in 2001 al-Qaida had a plot
http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/21327
THREATENING A WAR OF AGGRESSION IN IRAN
This violation of the U.N. Charter and U.S. Constitution has been well documented by Congressman Dennis Kucinich:
http://kucinich.house.gov/SpotlightIssues/documents.htm
We also learned in 2007 that Bush and Cheney were doing more in Iran than threatening it:
"Explosive" new Hersh scoop: Bush funneling money to Al Qaeda-related groups [VIDEO]
http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/18963
Report: U.S. Sponsoring Kurdish Guerilla Attacks Inside Iran
http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/20561
IRAN LIES
And we heard lots of lies about Iranian roadside bombs in Iraq or Iranian activities in Iraq or Iranian nuclear weapons. As each lie failed to stick, it was forgotten and replaced with a new one. But who will hold our so-called elected leaders accountable for the ones we were smart enough not to believe?
More Cheney War Lies Exposed - And This Time Pre-War
http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/23528
Cheney Tried to Stifle Dissent in Iran NIE
http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/28544
IRAQ LIES: NEW EVIDENCE
This is such fertile ground that although no more evidence is needed, it just keeps piling up. In fact, some of the old evidence is being buried In 2007 the White House deleted from its website the old claims by Cheney that Iraqis would welcome an occupation "as liberators" and so forth.
http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/18991
But deleting old Cheney lies only goes so far, when he keeps repeating them. In 2007, Cheney was still claiming that Iraq was to blame for 9-11.
http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/19629
The closest Congress came to touching the topic was a brief Senate committee hearing on a report on the Pentagon written by... the Pentagon. Even that report was fairly damning:
http://dodig.mil/IGInformation/archives/Unclass%20%20Executive%20Summary...
It dealt with the Feith Based Intelligence work of Doug Feith:
http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/18368
Pentagon Report Corroborates the Downing Street Memo, Intelligence and Facts Fixed Around the Policy!
http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/20958
Also in 2007, all pretense was abandoned that the invasion of Iraq was not driven by oil, as the Bush Administration and Congress pressured the puppet Iraqi government to pass a new law turning over much of the oil to foreign corporations: http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/22838
Here's the text of the law:
http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/19017
And, of course, the original lies continued to be documented:
Two Explosive Books Tell the Inside Story of the Forged Iraq-Niger Docs That Helped Build the Case for War
http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/21092
Tenet's Book of Lies Leads to New Revelations
http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/22110
Senior CIA Analyst Believed Iraq Had No WMD
http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/22977
Two former CIA officers say the president squelched top-secret intelligence, and a briefing by George Tenet, months before invading Iraq.
http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/26521
Bush-Aznar Smoking Gun
http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/27199
Faulty Intel Source "Curve Ball" Revealed
http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/28355
U.S. Plan Envisioned Nuking Iran, Syria, Libya
http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/28438
PLAME
With the I Lewis Scooter Libby trial finally held in 2007, there was good growth in the Plame industry. Perhaps the biggest news came late in the year when former White House Press Secretary Scotty McClellan implicated Bush and Cheney
http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/28856
But evidence in the trial had already done that as well:
Cheney's Handwritten Notes Implicate Bush in Plame Affair
http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/17987
FBI Agent Testifies Libby Learned About Plame from Cheney
http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/18045
Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald's comments to the press at the end of the trial suggested that he and they (the media) expected Congress to pursue the matter further. Congress never has. Late in the year, Fitzgerald again pointed his finger at Cheney:
http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/23081
Also coming out of the Libby trial came this insight, yet to be fully developed:
Bush Admin Targeted Wilson's Wife Long Before Wilson's Article Appeared
http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/18952
LIBBY COMMUTATION
James Madison and George Mason wanted impeachment in the Constitution in case a president ever pardoned someone for a crime that he himself was associated with. They did get impeachment into the Constitution. Nancy Pelosi removed it in 2007.
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