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Adventurer
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 Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 8:29 am Post subject: Report: Netanyahu says 9/11 terror attacks good for Israel |
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Report: Netanyahu says 9/11 terror attacks good for Israel
By Haaretz Service and Reuters
Tags: Israel, Benjamin Netanyahu
The Israeli newspaper Ma'ariv on Wednesday reported that Likud leader Benjamin Netanyahu told an audience at Bar Ilan university that the September 11, 2001 terror attacks had been beneficial for Israel.
"We are benefiting from one thing, and that is the attack on the Twin Towers and Pentagon, and the American struggle in Iraq," Ma'ariv quoted the former prime minister as saying. He reportedly added that these events "swung American public opinion in our favor."
Netanyahu reportedly made the comments during a conference at Bar-Ilan University on the division of Jerusalem as part of a peace deal with the Palestinians.
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Meanwhile, Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad cast doubt over the veracity of the September 11 attacks Thursday, calling it a pretext to invade Afghanistan and Iraq.
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On the other hand
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| Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 11:46 am Post subject: |
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I think Netanyahu might actually be wrong about this.
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"We are benefiting from one thing, and that is the attack on the Twin Towers and Pentagon, and the American struggle in Iraq," Ma'ariv quoted the former prime minister as saying. He reportedly added that these events "swung American public opinion in our favor."
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I'm not an expert on American public opinion, but it does seem to me that most of the rhetoric I've heard along the lines of 'If you're against Al Qaeda you gotta be for Israel" is coming from people who were already hardcore pro-Israeli before 9-11. I haven't heard too many people saying "well, you know, I used to be kind of ambivalent about Israel, but after 9-11 I'm behind them all way".
Of course, a lot of the politicians and media types who are most pro-Israeli are also the most fired-up about the War On Terror and the Iraq war. But I'm not really sure if that proves a causal connection between the two positions.
Just my observations. |
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catman
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| Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 1:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Netanyahu just gave the conspiracy theorists more ammo. |
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bacasper
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| Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 10:00 pm Post subject: |
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| catman wrote: |
| Netanyahu just gave the conspiracy theorists more ammo. |
Funny how facts keep doing that. |
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catman
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| Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 10:34 pm Post subject: |
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| bacasper wrote: |
| catman wrote: |
| Netanyahu just gave the conspiracy theorists more ammo. |
Funny how facts keep doing that. |
What is the fact in this case though? That the Jews blew up the buildings so the US would invade Iraq? |
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bacasper
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| Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 12:21 am Post subject: |
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| catman wrote: |
| bacasper wrote: |
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| Netanyahu just gave the conspiracy theorists more ammo. |
Funny how facts keep doing that. |
What is the fact in this case though? That the Jews blew up the buildings so the US would invade Iraq? |
That it is good for Israel, or at least that is what Netanyahu says. |
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Adventurer
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| Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 8:46 am Post subject: |
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Well, some people point to the fact that many of the neo-cons were Jews with ties to Israel. That is true. Some even had ties to Netanyahu's Likudniks. There is no denying that, but they only helped reinforce the thinking of the neo-cons who were gentiles like Rumsfeld and Cheney.
September 11th, in Netanyahu's view has helped increase more of an antipathy against Arabs and Muslims and making it more fashionable for people to not be so sympathtic vis-a-vis the Palestinians who received a lot of sympathy in the 1980s. Netanyahu finds sympathy for the Palestinians and their political aspirations a danger to his party's programme. |
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Gopher
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| Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 9:58 am Post subject: |
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| bacasper wrote: |
| ...it is good for Israel, or at least that is what Netanyahu says. |
But this is circumstantial thinking. Some say Israel benefitted; therefore Israel must have had something to do with it.
I disagree with the "Look-who-benefitted-to-discover-who-did-it" line of reasoning. For one thing, not all results or consequences are intended results or consequences. People, politicians, govts are not so masterly in control of world or even national affairs as the conspiracy theorists' worldview holds. No room for contingent agency in such a worldview. And Catman might have modified his comment and said something more like this: conspiracy theorists will now believe themselves more justified in claiming what they claim re: 9/11.
As far as the American academe goes, most if not all American academics thoroughly and actively hate Israel. I even know one who calls it "the country that cannot be named." Nothing will change that. |
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RJjr
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| Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 10:24 am Post subject: |
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We were attacked because of the money and weapons we give Israel. Paul Wolfowitz, Douglas Feith, George Tenet, Elliott Abrams and other Jewish traitors to America are bankrupting us in Iraq and now they even want us to fight Iran for them after Israel's military couldn't stay in the ring for even five weeks with 3000 Lebanese part-time militiamen trained by Iran.
Al Qaeda and Israel are both partially responsible for the current epidemic of Americans losing their homes. And bin Laden and Netanyahu are both talking about how good it is that the Arab-Israeli conflict has spread to America.
F' Arab terrorists and F' Israel. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
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| Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 1:05 pm Post subject: |
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| RJjr wrote: |
We were attacked because of the money and weapons we give Israel. Paul Wolfowitz, Douglas Feith, George Tenet, Elliott Abrams and other Jewish traitors to America are bankrupting us in Iraq and now they even want us to fight Iran for them after Israel's military couldn't stay in the ring for even five weeks with 3000 Lebanese part-time militiamen trained by Iran.
Al Qaeda and Israel are both partially responsible for the current epidemic of Americans losing their homes. And bin Laden and Netanyahu are both talking about how good it is that the Arab-Israeli conflict has spread to America.
F' Arab terrorists and F' Israel. |
What Al Qaeda fights for :
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al-Qa'ida (The Base)
Qaedat al-Jihad
Islamic Army for the Liberation of the Holy Places
World Islamic Front for Jihad Against Jews and Crusaders
Islamic Salvation Foundation
Usama bin Laden Network
Al-Qa'ida is multi-national, with members from numerous countries and with a worldwide presence. Senior leaders in the organization are also senior leaders in other terrorist organizations, including those designated by the Department of State as foreign terrorist organizations, such as the Egyptian al-Gama'at al-Islamiyya and the Egyptian al-Jihad. Al-Qa'ida seeks a global radicalization of existing Islamic groups and the creation of radical Islamic groups where none exist.
Al-Qa'ida supports Muslim fighters in Afghanistan, Bosnia, Chechnya, Tajikistan, Somalia, Yemen, and Kosovo. It also trains members of t | | |
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