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JustJohn



Joined: 18 Oct 2007
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 11:05 pm    Post subject: Why you should try Linux Reply with quote

I always hear people complaining about how Linux is too hard or too much trouble, but I just installed Mandriva recently and I wanted to show everyone how well it works without any tweaking so I made this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MR-nb_UFl0



Not super exciting or anything, but you can see it's easily more feature rich than XP, faster than Vista, and this particular distro seems to "just work." I'd definitely recommend giving it a try.


P.S.
Install took less than half an hour, most of which was waiting for the hard drive to get partitioned. I was browsing the internet and watching scrubs all through the install.
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Demophobe



Joined: 17 May 2004

PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 1:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Linux is crap. Glad you are happy with it.
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pkang0202



Joined: 09 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 2:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Install that Mandriva on a laptop.

Also, try doing simple things like changing the resolution to wide screen.
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SuperHero



Joined: 10 Dec 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 2:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't be bothered rehashing everything I've said about linux. What I've said can be found in these threads.
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=113273
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=82635

Essentially, Linux is not mature enough to be a serious O/S and it has nothing on windows other than being free.
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JustJohn



Joined: 18 Oct 2007
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 6:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let's not be too hasty now...




Demophobe wrote:
Linux is crap. Glad you are happy with it.

Thanks. Smile




pkang0202 wrote:
Install that Mandriva on a laptop.

Also, try doing simple things like changing the resolution to wide screen.

Might want to watch the video before you answer next time. It shows that I've done both of those. Smile




SuperHero wrote:
I can't be bothered rehashing everything I've said about linux. What I've said can be found in these threads.
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=113273
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=82635

Essentially, Linux is not mature enough to be a serious O/S and it has nothing on windows other than being free.

Yes, I've discussed this with you in those threads, and Linux is certainly not completely mature. However, the version I demo in the video is darn close. It seems like they've roughly got it to the point where you only need geek knowledge if you want to change geek stuff, and that's where the acceptable cutoff for usability is in my opinion.

I would recommend at least skimming the video. I think you may be surprised to see how mature it appears. (Don't want to say "is" just yet, as It's a new release and I've only been using it a week or so.)
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suadente



Joined: 27 Sep 2004

PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've dabbled with Linux several times in the past few years. The first time I tried it was about maybe 9 years ago, and it was crap--good security=30 hours to get a sound card working.

I tried it again 4 years ago when I was still using a genuine XP copy that no longer would register with my re-install. I decided to pay Mandrake (now Mandriva) instead of Microsoft. It was ok, but still too hard to do simple tasks.

But, I must say, the video that you posted is nothing like what I used in the past. It looks amazing. While I'm happy with Vista, I want to try Linux again. Thanks for the vid.
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JustJohn



Joined: 18 Oct 2007
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are still more likely to have hardware problems with linux of course, but compatibility has gotten a lot better. I'd recommend trying openSUSE or Mandriva, both of which are pretty polished, and I think odds are quite good that one (or both) of them will run without any hiccups.
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cj1976



Joined: 26 Oct 2005

PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only thing that looks good about that OS is the spinning cube desktop, but it's only a matter of time before a Windows version appears. I'm using Vista 64 Ultimate and I have had no problems at all.
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dogshed



Joined: 28 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My first Linux was the SLS distribution on
floppy disks. I think that was 17 years ago.

It still isn't ready for prime time.

Good luck connecting to a Korean bank with it.
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pkang0202



Joined: 09 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 11:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Linux is like a new beer. You give it a try and maybe you really like it. However, you always go back to the tried and true.
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JustJohn



Joined: 18 Oct 2007
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 5:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cj1976 wrote:
it's only a matter of time before a Windows version appears.


Alright, you wait another 4 years. In the mean time, I'll be over here.

As for it being like a new beer, perhaps you're right. I've only been running it a couple weeks now. But on this laptop it's running like a charm, and once I get in the habit of using multiple desktops, clipboard history, etc I think it's going to be pretty hard to go back.
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rocklee



Joined: 04 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 6:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cj1976 wrote:
The only thing that looks good about that OS is the spinning cube desktop, but it's only a matter of time before a Windows version appears.


Um...there are many windows version :

- 3dwonder.com

- OpenVDM

- Yod'm 3D

- SphereXP (although not quite the same but still equally cool)
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JustJohn



Joined: 18 Oct 2007
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

True, but they're way behind compiz and compiz is being updated constantly. One was boasting of "4 different effects!" (apparently other windows versions have less?).

To put that in perspective, I think compiz has close to 40 plugins right now, with another 10-15 usable but not "finalized." (The vast majority of those plugins each represent a different "effect.")
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pkang0202



Joined: 09 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you have no peripherials and don't plan on running any relevant software then Linux is great. It's also great if you happen to have the small percentage of hardware that there are drivers for.
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Underwaterbob



Joined: 08 Jan 2005
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ubuntu was awesome. Installed it on a Samsung Sens P28 no problem, all hardware working. Far more stable and secure than any Windows system I'd run before or since.

I did miss some audio apps that I could no longer run and Linux is still generally weak in the recording department. Though the audio apps I covet in Windows I didn't exactly pay for either...
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