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jjmonkey
Joined: 12 Aug 2006
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Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 2:50 am Post subject: :!: Violence in City Hall..Tibet/China :!: |
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While in City Hall I held a Tibetan Flag. I was screamed at. (Ok...say what you will...Freedom of Speech is great)
"F U" "One China" "Tibet Is Ours" "F>>> TIBET"
I responded, saying that I like China and only want peace for all of the people in China and Tibet. This, of course, had no effect.
Then my flag was torn from my Korean girlfriend hands, then mine.
I had another. again the screaming...hundreds of Chinese students surrounded me and screamed terrible things.
Then the kicks and punches. My face was cut.
THe police that were standing next to us were gone.
Soon blood was running down my face. I pushed my girlfreind into a nearby hotel and barely got in myself. There were at least a hundred Chinese people at our throats. The police provided no assistance. thank god we were next to a hotel, which did what they could to stop them. We ran and ran and heard Chinese, who really wanted to hurt us, following behind. We found safety on the 16th floor.
Finally the police and KBS came, long after it all started. I went to the hospital to check the gash in my face.
I was there to support Tibet. To support peace. I don't hate China.
I was truly amazed about how poorly the Chinese acted. When hundreds of protesters come at you...there really is nothing you can do. I feel guilty for not staying, but when you girlfriend's safety is at stake, you have to leave. Thousands of people were there carrying Chinese flags...is it so wrong to come and carry one in support of Tibet?
THe actions and violence of these students does nothing more than mobilize a movement against them and the violence of their government.
I truly hope the other foreigners who were there are safe.
I'm ok after my short visit to the ER. It could have been much worse. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 3:26 am Post subject: |
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I was truly amazed about how poorly the Chinese acted. |
Amazed? Why? What kind of reception did you expect? Honestly, what were you expecting? |
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jjmonkey
Joined: 12 Aug 2006
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loose_ends
Joined: 23 Jul 2007
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Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 4:38 am Post subject: |
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Anyone know if the protests are still going on?
Wouldn't mind kickin some Chinese @ss at the moment |
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Typhoon
Joined: 29 May 2007 Location: Daejeon
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Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 4:52 am Post subject: |
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I'm so glad that China has the Olympics. The best part is the torch run around the world to highlight exactly why China should never have been given the Olympics. |
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HapKi

Joined: 10 Dec 2004 Location: TALL BUILDING-SEOUL
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Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 5:09 am Post subject: |
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I truly hope the other foreigners who were there are safe. |
I somewhat sympathized with you till you said this. I was at City Hall today, and you'd have had to be a fool to be waving a Tibet flag in that crowd.
Really, who did you think your audience was? |
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pugwall
Joined: 22 Oct 2006
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Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 5:27 am Post subject: |
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HapKi wrote: |
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I truly hope the other foreigners who were there are safe. |
I somewhat sympathized with you till you said this. I was at City Hall today, and you'd have had to be a fool to be waving a Tibet flag in that crowd.
Really, who did you think your audience was? |
I saw hundreds of people western people there today having a good time and chatting to Chinese people. |
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agentX
Joined: 12 Oct 2007 Location: Jeolla province
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Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 5:56 am Post subject: |
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Pretty brave of you to stand against the mob.
However, there are more effective ways to get your point across than to wave a flag at a torch run.
You gotta hit 'em where it hurts- in the wallet. |
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yawarakaijin
Joined: 08 Aug 2006
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Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 5:58 am Post subject: |
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Unbelievable. Nationalism at is most silly and ugly. And I was just upset at having protesters having their flags taken away.
Serioulsy where the fuck do these chinese students/visitors get the balls to physically attack peaceful protesters in democratic societies? Blows my mind. I hope the korean cops take into custody all those involved and deport their asses back to china. |
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yawarakaijin
Joined: 08 Aug 2006
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Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 5:59 am Post subject: |
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pugwall wrote: |
HapKi wrote: |
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I truly hope the other foreigners who were there are safe. |
I somewhat sympathized with you till you said this. I was at City Hall today, and you'd have had to be a fool to be waving a Tibet flag in that crowd.
Really, who did you think your audience was? |
I saw hundreds of people western people there today having a good time and chatting to Chinese people. |
Yeah well I guess you didn't see any westerners with tibetan flags chatting to Chinese did you.  |
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pugwall
Joined: 22 Oct 2006
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Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 6:06 am Post subject: |
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yawarakaijin wrote: |
pugwall wrote: |
HapKi wrote: |
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I truly hope the other foreigners who were there are safe. |
I somewhat sympathized with you till you said this. I was at City Hall today, and you'd have had to be a fool to be waving a Tibet flag in that crowd.
Really, who did you think your audience was? |
I saw hundreds of people western people there today having a good time and chatting to Chinese people. |
Yeah well I guess you didn't see any westerners with tibetan flags chatting to Chinese did you.  |
They op's original point that there was a gnashing of the teeth of ugly totalitarian nationalism breathing fire down the neck of those who made the simple mistake of not being Chinese was not a representation of the events of today for me, my friends and hundreds of other of Westerners there. |
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jjmonkey
Joined: 12 Aug 2006
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Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 8:15 am Post subject: attack on a Tibetan supporter |
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Pluto
Joined: 19 Dec 2006
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Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 8:52 am Post subject: |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 10:03 am Post subject: |
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I really don't see Canadian and American ESL teachers turning violent it we counter demonstrated. Actually, I don't even see us counter demonstrating. |
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Typhoon
Joined: 29 May 2007 Location: Daejeon
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Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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The Chinese had no right to behave in the manner they did. Demonstrating is ok for everyone. Physically assulting people for demonstrating a view different from yours is awful. The Chinese were just out of line....period. I am getting more and more tired of the Chinese by the day. They had no right to assult the other peaceful protesters. The world is not only theirs...it is one world and China is part of it. They don't own it and can't stop people from saying what they want yet. |
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