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Julius
Joined: 27 Jul 2006
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 Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 12:42 am Post subject: Luftwaffe pilot apologises for bombing England: would you? |
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"The war was madness. I realise now what I did and will come back to say sorry.
"I was afraid the British would be very angry but I find that now they are very gentle."
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=547269&in_page_id=1770
By Contrast:
"Japanese survivors of the world's first nuclear attack on Hiroshima voiced regret that the American pilot of the plane that dropped the bomb died without saying sorry.
Paul Warfield Tibbets, Jr, whose B-29 bomber dubbed the Enola Gay dropped the 9,000-pound "Little Boy" bomb on August 6, 1945, died on Thursday at his home in Columbus, Ohio. He was 92.
Tibbets never expressed regret for the bombing that led to the end of World War II but at a horrific price: 140,000 dead immediately and 80,000 other Japanese succumbing in the aftermath"
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/2513549.cms |
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Tjames426
Joined: 06 Aug 2006
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| Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 2:05 am Post subject: No Regrets... |
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| More Japanese would of died if an invasion would of happened. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 4:16 am Post subject: |
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Have any brits apologized for bombing Berlin? Do they need to? If you're attacked and faced with an all out war by the aggressor, I don't think you need to apologize for fighting back. To suggest anything else is stupid. I'll tell you what Julius. When your nation is attacked and you strap yourself into a plane and fight an enemy you know will spare you not a single mercy should you be captured, I'll THEN listen to your opinions on who should be personally apologizing for what.
What a cracker. |
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agentX
Joined: 12 Oct 2007
Location: Jeolla province
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| Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:07 am Post subject: |
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It's been over 50 years since the war ended. It's time to let it go, and this pilot obviously felt the need to apologize.
Did he knew what he was doing was wrong then when he was flying the German bomber? Perhaps he did. |
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Chris_Dixon
Joined: 09 Jan 2008
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| Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:28 am Post subject: Re: No Regrets... |
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| Tjames426 wrote: |
| More Japanese would of died if an invasion would of happened. |
sigh, the most commonly said excuse......pity its based on nothing....research stuff for yourself. |
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Julius
Joined: 27 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:42 am Post subject: |
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| Have any brits apologized for bombing Berlin? Do they need to? |
Sure, at time of war you do what has to be done. And no, they don't fundamentally need to. Do you "need" to help a disabled person cross a busy street?
But 50+ years later when all is at peace and you are neariing the deathbed, saying a couple of simple words should not be that difficult, if it helps soothe thousands of the living.
Looking at those pictures its clear to me who dies the happier and better man.
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| When your nation is attacked and you strap yourself into a plane and fight an enemy you know will spare you not a single mercy should you be captured |
-been watching too many movies again mindlesstool?  or are U remembering to the day the postman invaded your hippy commune. |
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djsmnc
Joined: 20 Jan 2003
Location: Dave's ESL Cafe
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| Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 7:01 am Post subject: |
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| mindmetoo wrote: |
What a cracker. |
I resent that term, nigger! |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 7:02 am Post subject: |
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| Julius wrote: |
Looking at those pictures its clear to me who dies the happier and better man. |
I'm rather certain there are many photos of him with a smile on his face. Geez. This is a lame argument.
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| When your nation is attacked and you strap yourself into a plane and fight an enemy you know will spare you not a single mercy should you be captured |
-been watching too many movies again mindlesstool? or are U remembering to the day the postman invaded your hippy commune. |
Or you could address the point.
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 7:04 am Post subject: Re: No Regrets... |
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| Chris_Dixon wrote: |
| Tjames426 wrote: |
| More Japanese would of died if an invasion would of happened. |
sigh, the most commonly said excuse......pity its based on nothing....research stuff for yourself. |
Actually, no.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Okinawa#Casualties |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 8:30 am Post subject: Re: No Regrets... |
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| Chris_Dixon wrote: |
| Tjames426 wrote: |
| More Japanese would of died if an invasion would of happened. |
sigh, the most commonly said excuse......pity its based on nothing....research stuff for yourself. |
Judging by your own comment, sounds like you haven't done much research on the topic yourself.  |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 8:39 am Post subject: Re: No Regrets... |
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| bucheon bum wrote: |
| Chris_Dixon wrote: |
| Tjames426 wrote: |
| More Japanese would of died if an invasion would of happened. |
sigh, the most commonly said excuse......pity its based on nothing....research stuff for yourself. |
Judging by your own comment, sounds like you haven't done much research on the topic yourself. |
Thirded.
Has anyone seen the Kurosawa movie Rhapsody in August? Did anyone else find it interesting that it focuses exclusively on the Nagasaki bombing, and doesn't mention Hiroshima?
I always thought it was because the bombing of Nagasaki was unnecessary, and Kurosawa wanted to focus on that tragedy, rather than the first bombing. |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007
Location: retired
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| Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 11:34 am Post subject: Re: No Regrets... |
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| Tjames426 wrote: |
| More Japanese would of died if an invasion would of happened. |
If our criteria for "when bomb" is the number of dead vs. not bombing, then we might be able to make a good claim that the first atomic bomb dropped was justified in that it killed less than otherwise would have been killed.
The second bomb cannot be defended, in my opinion. |
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Imbroglio
Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: Behind the wheel of a large automobile
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| Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 12:00 pm Post subject: |
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| It's been over 50 years since the war ended. It's time to let it go... |
Says you. But you weren't there, were you? That's why I never pay attention to most of the people that write their opinions on these forums. Most of you love to spout off your opinions about everything and anything, but 99% of you have never known and will never know what it's like to be baptized by fire. |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007
Location: retired
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| Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 12:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Imbroglio wrote: |
| agentX wrote: |
| It's been over 50 years since the war ended. It's time to let it go... |
Says you. But you weren't there, were you? That's why I never pay attention to most of the people that write their opinions on these forums. Most of you love to spout off your opinions about everything and anything, but 99% of you have never known and will never know what it's like to be baptized by fire. |
That is, you know, just your opinion, dude.
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 2:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Imbroglio wrote: |
| agentX wrote: |
| It's been over 50 years since the war ended. It's time to let it go... |
Says you. But you weren't there, were you? That's why I never pay attention to most of the people that write their opinions on these forums. Most of you love to spout off your opinions about everything and anything, but 99% of you have never known and will never know what it's like to be baptized by fire. |
Thanks for that positive contribution. What was the inspiration for that mini-rant? |
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