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Reaction to Chinese violence all over Seoul

 
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Does bringing attention to Tibet now help reduce violence and bring peace to Tibet?
Yes
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 37%  [ 6 ]
No
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 18%  [ 3 ]
I don't know
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 43%  [ 7 ]
Total Votes : 16

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jjmonkey



Joined: 12 Aug 2006

PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 12:05 am    Post subject: Reaction to Chinese violence all over Seoul Reply with quote

http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200804/200804290016.html


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wT4scEwMIc&feature=email

Apparently there will be a protest (in reaction to all the violence)at the Chinese Embassy in Jongno tomorrow. Anyone with information please post.
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yawarakaijin



Joined: 08 Aug 2006

PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 12:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had always gotten the impression that Koreans didn't take particularly well to foreigners acting badly inside their country. Perhaps something good will come from all this and you English teachers, who occassionaly kiss your korean gf in public might be cut a little slack. Wink

It is quite obvious to me, and probably now to Koreans, which group of people TRULY have contempt for Korean law and society.
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pugwall



Joined: 22 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 12:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just one question, why do you think it would possibly bring about 'peace' in Tibet?
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Julius



Joined: 27 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 1:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I asked a co-worker if they blame Chinese people for the violence. She answered "No, we blame the police. They should have protected Korean people better".

Seems Korea has a long and instinctive history of deferring to China.
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jjmonkey



Joined: 12 Aug 2006

PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 1:20 am    Post subject: re Reply with quote

I don't think it's a trendy cause. Having met the Dalai Lama and being aware of the situation, I was there to show dissent.

It would be just as unacceptable if a mob of Americans physically attacked people burning photos of G.Bush, which is certainly a more inflammatory way to express oneself (burning things). But Bush and Tibet are only similar in that people often make a statement about their feelings toward them. As an American, I was quite happy Germany and France initially took a stand against our Iraq policy and GW. It's too bad there wasn't more success in that arena.

Whatever the cause, most westerners will agree, Freedom of Speech is something to be protected. You shouldn't fear for your life when you are simply standing somewhere with a flag. I didn't say "free Tibet". All I want is peace for them and the Chinese.
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pugwall



Joined: 22 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 2:19 am    Post subject: Re: re Reply with quote

[quote="jjmonkey"]I don't think it's a trendy cause. Having met the Dalai Lama and being aware of the situation, I was there to show dissent.

It would be just as unacceptable if a mob of Americans physically attacked people burning photos of G.Bush, which is certainly a more inflammatory way to express oneself (burning things). But Bush and Tibet are only similar in that people often make a statement about their feelings toward them. As an American, I was quite happy Germany and France initially took a stand against our Iraq policy and GW. It's too bad there wasn't more success in that arena.

Whatever the cause, most westerners will agree, Freedom of Speech is something to be protected. You shouldn't fear for your life when you are simply standing somewhere with a flag. I didn't say "free Tibet". All I want is peace for them and the Chinese.[/quote


I thought the protests were for autonomy.Any changes in Tibet will come from the Chinese government. Their movements are hard to judge. Tibet is a pretty compex issue and I can't see any major changes. The Dalai Lama has to publicly denounce the Free Tibet rioters which he has done already. There will probably need to be some kind of reparations from the Tibetan people. It all depends on what happens with the talks between Beijing and the DL. DL has to seperate himselfd from the Free Tibet people and the terrorist branch of the Free Tibet wing. I think Dalai Lama actually coming to Beijing will not happen before the Olympics. . Bejing if they play their cards properly can use the Dalai Lama and hopefully he will be able to return to Tibet in a religious-only capacity and the tensions that Tibetans have will be properly dealt with by the government. That is best case scenario This is all dependent on the protesting calming down and the Olympics running smoothly.So no I can't see any positive changes at all coming from your protesting.

Chinese people condemmed violence in Seoul as well.
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Julius



Joined: 27 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 5:56 am    Post subject: Re: re Reply with quote

jjmonkey wrote:
Bush and Tibet are only similar in that people often make a statement about their feelings toward them.


You could always free Lakota, of course.

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Kuros



Joined: 27 Apr 2004

PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 6:48 am    Post subject: Re: re Reply with quote

Julius wrote:
jjmonkey wrote:
Bush and Tibet are only similar in that people often make a statement about their feelings toward them.


You could always free Lakota, of course.



Native American tribes on their own reservations basically make their own laws. What the Dalai Lama has requested from China, the US has already basically given to the tribes.
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Leslie Cheswyck



Joined: 31 May 2003
Location: University of Western Chile

PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 12:52 pm    Post subject: Re: re Reply with quote

Kuros wrote:
What the Dalai Lama has requested from China, the US has already basically given to the tribes.




So, what'll it be; blackjack or faro? Laughing
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Gopher



Joined: 04 Jun 2005

PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm. MGM Tibet. "For the world's leftist, political-activist gamblers..." Buddhist monks as table-games dealers. Hot Tibetan women as cocktail waitresses. Real Chinese Pai Gow tiles easily imported. Just might work, Leslie.
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pugwall



Joined: 22 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Surely 'Free Tibet where you're FREE TO BET'
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Leslie Cheswyck



Joined: 31 May 2003
Location: University of Western Chile

PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 6:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://kr.youtube.com/watch?v=E0PIdWdw15U
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Fishead soup



Joined: 24 Jun 2007
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gopher wrote:
Hmm. MGM Tibet. "For the world's leftist, political-activist gamblers..." Buddhist monks as table-games dealers. Hot Tibetan women as cocktail waitresses. Real Chinese Pai Gow tiles easily imported. Just might work, Leslie.


Thai's love gambling and most of them are Buddhists. Most bar girls are also Buddhists too. Hence the Wai before they start pole dancing.
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