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Does bringing attention to Tibet now help reduce violence and bring peace to Tibet? |
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jjmonkey
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yawarakaijin
Joined: 08 Aug 2006
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Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 12:17 am Post subject: |
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I had always gotten the impression that Koreans didn't take particularly well to foreigners acting badly inside their country. Perhaps something good will come from all this and you English teachers, who occassionaly kiss your korean gf in public might be cut a little slack.
It is quite obvious to me, and probably now to Koreans, which group of people TRULY have contempt for Korean law and society. |
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pugwall
Joined: 22 Oct 2006
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Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 12:47 am Post subject: |
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Just one question, why do you think it would possibly bring about 'peace' in Tibet? |
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Julius

Joined: 27 Jul 2006
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Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 1:10 am Post subject: |
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I asked a co-worker if they blame Chinese people for the violence. She answered "No, we blame the police. They should have protected Korean people better".
Seems Korea has a long and instinctive history of deferring to China. |
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jjmonkey
Joined: 12 Aug 2006
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Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 1:20 am Post subject: re |
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I don't think it's a trendy cause. Having met the Dalai Lama and being aware of the situation, I was there to show dissent.
It would be just as unacceptable if a mob of Americans physically attacked people burning photos of G.Bush, which is certainly a more inflammatory way to express oneself (burning things). But Bush and Tibet are only similar in that people often make a statement about their feelings toward them. As an American, I was quite happy Germany and France initially took a stand against our Iraq policy and GW. It's too bad there wasn't more success in that arena.
Whatever the cause, most westerners will agree, Freedom of Speech is something to be protected. You shouldn't fear for your life when you are simply standing somewhere with a flag. I didn't say "free Tibet". All I want is peace for them and the Chinese. |
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pugwall
Joined: 22 Oct 2006
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Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 2:19 am Post subject: Re: re |
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[quote="jjmonkey"]I don't think it's a trendy cause. Having met the Dalai Lama and being aware of the situation, I was there to show dissent.
It would be just as unacceptable if a mob of Americans physically attacked people burning photos of G.Bush, which is certainly a more inflammatory way to express oneself (burning things). But Bush and Tibet are only similar in that people often make a statement about their feelings toward them. As an American, I was quite happy Germany and France initially took a stand against our Iraq policy and GW. It's too bad there wasn't more success in that arena.
Whatever the cause, most westerners will agree, Freedom of Speech is something to be protected. You shouldn't fear for your life when you are simply standing somewhere with a flag. I didn't say "free Tibet". All I want is peace for them and the Chinese.[/quote
I thought the protests were for autonomy.Any changes in Tibet will come from the Chinese government. Their movements are hard to judge. Tibet is a pretty compex issue and I can't see any major changes. The Dalai Lama has to publicly denounce the Free Tibet rioters which he has done already. There will probably need to be some kind of reparations from the Tibetan people. It all depends on what happens with the talks between Beijing and the DL. DL has to seperate himselfd from the Free Tibet people and the terrorist branch of the Free Tibet wing. I think Dalai Lama actually coming to Beijing will not happen before the Olympics. . Bejing if they play their cards properly can use the Dalai Lama and hopefully he will be able to return to Tibet in a religious-only capacity and the tensions that Tibetans have will be properly dealt with by the government. That is best case scenario This is all dependent on the protesting calming down and the Olympics running smoothly.So no I can't see any positive changes at all coming from your protesting.
Chinese people condemmed violence in Seoul as well. |
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Julius

Joined: 27 Jul 2006
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Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 5:56 am Post subject: Re: re |
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jjmonkey wrote: |
Bush and Tibet are only similar in that people often make a statement about their feelings toward them. |
You could always free Lakota, of course.
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 6:48 am Post subject: Re: re |
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Julius wrote: |
jjmonkey wrote: |
Bush and Tibet are only similar in that people often make a statement about their feelings toward them. |
You could always free Lakota, of course.
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Native American tribes on their own reservations basically make their own laws. What the Dalai Lama has requested from China, the US has already basically given to the tribes. |
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Leslie Cheswyck

Joined: 31 May 2003 Location: University of Western Chile
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Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 12:52 pm Post subject: Re: re |
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Kuros wrote: |
What the Dalai Lama has requested from China, the US has already basically given to the tribes. |
So, what'll it be; blackjack or faro?  |
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Gopher

Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 1:07 pm Post subject: |
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Hmm. MGM Tibet. "For the world's leftist, political-activist gamblers..." Buddhist monks as table-games dealers. Hot Tibetan women as cocktail waitresses. Real Chinese Pai Gow tiles easily imported. Just might work, Leslie. |
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pugwall
Joined: 22 Oct 2006
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Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 2:26 pm Post subject: |
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Surely 'Free Tibet where you're FREE TO BET' |
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Leslie Cheswyck

Joined: 31 May 2003 Location: University of Western Chile
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Fishead soup
Joined: 24 Jun 2007 Location: Korea
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Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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Gopher wrote: |
Hmm. MGM Tibet. "For the world's leftist, political-activist gamblers..." Buddhist monks as table-games dealers. Hot Tibetan women as cocktail waitresses. Real Chinese Pai Gow tiles easily imported. Just might work, Leslie. |
Thai's love gambling and most of them are Buddhists. Most bar girls are also Buddhists too. Hence the Wai before they start pole dancing. |
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