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mnhnhyouh



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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 11:46 pm    Post subject: Another grammar question Reply with quote

I am sure that this is the right road.

Few people are aware that 1883 is an important year in the history of the Korean press.


What is the purpose of "that" in these sentences? I think the first sounds more natural without it, but the second doesn't?


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Privateer



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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 1:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That I should know this, I am sure: I am sure (that) I should know this. But I don't.

At first I was going to say it's a relative pronoun, but of course it isn't because it's not relating anything to a noun. Then I thought maybe it should be called a conjunction since it connects two clauses: but that doesn't seem right.

I know that with 'to be sure' and 'to be aware', functioning in the same way as 'to know', 'that' indicates the object of the verb is a clause rather than a noun; but what the grammatical term for it is I do not know. Hope someone else does. Smile
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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 7:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Few people are aware that 1883 is an important year in the history of the Korean press.
or.... Many people are unaware that 1883 is an important year in the history of the Korean press. Confused
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Thiuda



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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In both sentences 'that' functions as subordinating conjunction.

http://grammar.uoregon.edu/conjunctions/subordinating.html
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Kwangjuchicken



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PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2008 3:31 am    Post subject: Re: Another grammar question Reply with quote

mnhnhyouh wrote:
I am sure that this is the right road.

Few people are aware that 1883 is an important year in the history of the Korean press.


What is the purpose of "that" in these sentences? I think the first sounds more natural without it, but the second doesn't?


h


[b]Tres peu de gens savent que l'annee 1883 a ete une annee importante dans l'histoire de la press en coree.

For 200 years the official language of England was French. Thus, French had a strong influence on the evolution of English. In this case, "that" is optional; however, in French you must have the "que".
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Kimchieluver



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PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2008 3:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I took a course in effective communication, It said that we should avoid using "that" or "which" whenever possible. Even if it means we have to make two sentences.
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