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North Korea Behind the Beef Protests?
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endo



Joined: 14 Mar 2004
Location: Seoul...my home

PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 7:49 pm    Post subject: North Korea Behind the Beef Protests? Reply with quote

Just a theory of mine. No evidece here.


However, if you think about it, it's not that far of a stretch to at least speculate that North Korean agents may be behind some of the protests over the past month. Whether through propoganda messages or financing of portest groups.

You think about it. When Lee Myong-pak came in to office he was very popular. He also began to take a much harder stance towards the North Korean regime. In addition, he also worked to strengthen his countries relationship with the United States.

This was a big dparture from the past two Korean presidents (Noh Moo-hyun & Kim Dae-jung) who appeased the North Koreans with food and financial aid and took a stance in which criticism of Kim jong-il and his regime was essentially non-existant.

They (especially Noh Moo-hyun) also at time flamed anti-American (and anti-Japanese) sentiments.



Like I said before, Lee Muong-pak did the opposite and one of the actors most potentially effected by this new stance was the North Korean regime.

However, now with the portests and Lee Myong-pak's approval rating falling to around 20%, South Korea's president lost most of his political strength.


And you have to think that Kim Jong-il is just sitting back in one of his palaces, with a bottle of Brandi, watching a movie or two, with several young girls from his harim, just laughing and eating up the irrational and hysterical protests going on south of the 38th.
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diver



Joined: 16 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't be surprised. I would think that they were more "involved in" rather than "behind" the protests, but you never know. It's not like it they haven't been involved in stuff before.
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sunnyvale



Joined: 17 Jul 2006
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 8:38 pm    Post subject: Re: North Korea Behind the Beef Protests? Reply with quote

endo wrote:
Just a theory of mine. No evidece here.


However, if you think about it, it's not that far of a stretch to at least speculate that North Korean agents may be behind some of the protests over the past month. Whether through propoganda messages or financing of portest groups.

You think about it. When Lee Myong-pak came in to office he was very popular. He also began to take a much harder stance towards the North Korean regime. In addition, he also worked to strengthen his countries relationship with the United States.

This was a big dparture from the past two Korean presidents (Noh Moo-hyun & Kim Dae-jung) who appeased the North Koreans with food and financial aid and took a stance in which criticism of Kim jong-il and his regime was essentially non-existant.

They (especially Noh Moo-hyun) also at time flamed anti-American (and anti-Japanese) sentiments.



Like I said before, Lee Muong-pak did the opposite and one of the actors most potentially effected by this new stance was the North Korean regime.

However, now with the portests and Lee Myong-pak's approval rating falling to around 20%, South Korea's president lost most of his political strength.


And you have to think that Kim Jong-il is just sitting back in one of his palaces, with a bottle of Brandi, watching a movie or two, with several young girls from his harim, just laughing and eating up the irrational and hysterical protests going on south of the 38th.


Yeah, blame it on the communists. Did you ever consider that they might have released H5N1 into South Korea as well?
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nobbyken



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe a little too clever for the Dear Thunderbird.

But, if the South won't take it; maybe bulggogi will be back on the menu in the North!
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cdninkorea



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's possible and there's certainly a motive, but these alone don't constitute evidence.
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IlIlNine



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Location: Gunpo, Gyonggi, SoKo

PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it's possible. Perhaps even likely.

They may not have hatched the original plan, but it seems likely that they are now involved in a significant manner.

I also have no proof, but that's what my gut is telling me. Damn commies.

멸공합시다!
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Harpeau



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In spite of the media missinformation and stupidity, I honestly think that Koreans have observed NAFTA, etc. and they've observed that there is nothing "FREE" about it and it just benefits Multi-national conglomerates and many good jobs have gone to Mexico and thus has been eating away the middle class in North America.

Koreans are just saying that they're not going to take it. I don't really blame them.
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endo



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Harpeau wrote:
In spite of the media missinformation and stupidity, I honestly think that Koreans have observed NAFTA, etc. and they've observed that there is nothing "FREE" about it and it just benefits Multi-national conglomerates and many good jobs have gone to Mexico and thus has been eating away the middle class in North America.

Koreans are just saying that they're not going to take it. I don't really blame them.


And every time they eat just one piece of American beef, they can potentially die a violent death!
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waynehead



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Frankly some of this hysteria is so ridiculous that it makes me think some outside agent has to be responsible.

Although in terms of scale and severity this comparison's an exaggeration, it reminds me a bit of the Salem Witch Trials. Any and every absurd rumor/accusation is instantly taken as gospel. A lot of these protesters really just need to chillax, or go back to science class, or both.
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traxxe



Joined: 21 Feb 2007

PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've come to the point where I believe that we should ship all of the beef to North Korea.

They would be happy to have it.

Then we should pull out our military because kimchi aged under 30 months could spontaneous kill GI's due to a genetic flaw we have from eating too many hamburgers.

Then the president should make a speech about how Korea is not in our sphere of interest anymore. See if Kim gets the same message his father got.

This issue is retarded. The Korean public by and large is retarded. Sure there are a few smart individuals but let them wallow in their own stupidity. Stop supporting them, pull the military out, and stop trading with them. Then, when all this progress they've made starts disintegrating and their military budget draws huge tax increases you'll see some legitimate protests about how they want cheaper beef and rice.

Just sick of it. I'm sick of Koreans bringing it up with me. I'm sick of my students bringing it up. I'm sick of the lack of logic most these people have.

Many of my college students really believe half the population will die because of American beef. How can you even argue against such gross incompetence?

I just give the few who know better A+'s and encourage them to breed.
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waynehead



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Frankly some of this hysteria is so ridiculous that it makes me think some outside agent has to be responsible.

Although in terms of scale and severity this comparison's an exaggeration, it reminds me a bit of the Salem Witch Trials. Any and every absurd rumor/accusation is instantly taken as gospel. A lot of these protesters really just need to chillax, or go back to science class, or both.
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Frankly Mr Shankly



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Begin digging through the links to the Teachers' Union and the massive amounts of school children they have mobilized to protest and you may be on to something.
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bassexpander



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been saying this for days.
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cdninkorea



Joined: 27 Jan 2006
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Harpeau wrote:
In spite of the media missinformation and stupidity, I honestly think that Koreans have observed NAFTA, etc. and they've observed that there is nothing "FREE" about it and it just benefits Multi-national conglomerates and many good jobs have gone to Mexico and thus has been eating away the middle class in North America.

Koreans are just saying that they're not going to take it. I don't really blame them.


As much as I respect you as a poster, I couldn't disagree with you more on this one.

Countries get richer by free trade- both the people in Mexico who are working better jobs than they had before and the Americans who can profit by producing things in other countries cheaper. You talk about multinationals as if they're some kind of machine, but the fact is people work at those companies. It also means American consumers get things cheaper too.

Yes some people have lost their jobs; every economy, even isolated totalitarian ones, change, and this means some people lose jobs and some gain new jobs.

Governments have no place interfering in private contracts which don't directly infringe on anyone's rights. This implies free trade.
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RJjr



Joined: 17 Aug 2006
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 11:07 pm    Post subject: Re: North Korea Behind the Beef Protests? Reply with quote

endo wrote:
North Korean agents may be behind some of the protests over the past month.


I have to disagree. Since the North Korean people have never shown signs of being this gullible and fanatical, I don't think their agents are involved in this one.
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