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bovinerebel
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| Grab the Chickens Levi wrote: |
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| we never went to the moon....the really silly thing to believe is that we did in 1969.....before we'd invented the pocket calculater..... |
Lol, you're making a fool of yourself with this gem...
It would be like saying it's silly to beleive we created the sputnick sattelite in the 1950's because the desktop calculator hand't been invented yet...
or silly to believe we created the nuclear bomb in the 1940's as the desktop calculator hadn't been invented yet...
Now, I'm not saying we did or didn't go to the moon, but your argument just does not hold weight. |
It's not an argument , but it's a curious fact that the Japanese and Chinese space programs can still not put a man on the moon despite being far more highly technologically advanced than the Americans were at the same stage. Nor could and have the Russians either despite at the same time being more highly advanced than the Americans. It's all down to the immense amount of protection needed from radiation in space for a human being to survive and weight ratios that would involve in the rocket technology. Also it doesn't help that the photos from the moon are riddled with hot spots and unnatural lighting and shadows , that there is actual footage of them staging being further from the earth than they actually were . Actually there are so many good arguments that have not been offered any adequate explanation that once you see it...it's almost laughable.
I don't care or have an emotional investment in it. Just another series of b#llshit public relations jobs done by the american government with a sinister political agenda. It doesn't surprise or shock me in the slightest that they faked the moon landings given it was impossible to do at the time , and probably still is. The vietnam or Iraq wars are far more shocking and sophisticated examples of what they are capable of. |
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TheUrbanMyth
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| Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 10:45 pm Post subject: |
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Yes. We've never been to the moon. I'm a highly intelligent , fully rational person and quite aware of the stigma of this conspiracy. I also know how the stigma arose through people like fox doing documentaries on it that did not present the overpowering evidence , |
Who is fox? |
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bovinerebel
Joined: 27 Feb 2008
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| Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 10:49 pm Post subject: |
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Yes. We've never been to the moon. I'm a highly intelligent , fully rational person and quite aware of the stigma of this conspiracy. I also know how the stigma arose through people like fox doing documentaries on it that did not present the overpowering evidence , |
Who is fox? |
hahaha 
Look at this guy ? He's either a pedantic, an@l retentive, douchbag or his head is so far up his @ss he doesn't even know that millions of people refer to fox news or the fox television network as "fox"
bwahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!! |
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Grab the Chickens Levi
Joined: 29 Apr 2008
Location: Ilsan
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| Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 10:54 pm Post subject: |
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| bovinerebel wrote: |
| Grab the Chickens Levi wrote: |
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| we never went to the moon....the really silly thing to believe is that we did in 1969.....before we'd invented the pocket calculater..... |
Lol, you're making a fool of yourself with this gem...
It would be like saying it's silly to beleive we created the sputnick sattelite in the 1950's because the desktop calculator hand't been invented yet...
or silly to believe we created the nuclear bomb in the 1940's as the desktop calculator hadn't been invented yet...
Now, I'm not saying we did or didn't go to the moon, but your argument just does not hold weight. |
It's not an argument , but it's a curious fact that the Japanese and Chinese space programs can still not put a man on the moon despite being far more highly technologically advanced than the Americans were at the same stage. Nor could and have the Russians either despite at the same time being more highly advanced than the Americans. It's all down to the immense amount of protection needed from radiation in space for a human being to survive and weight ratios that would involve in the rocket technology. Also it doesn't help that the photos from the moon are riddled with hot spots and unnatural lighting and shadows , that there is actual footage of them staging being further from the earth than they actually were . Actually there are so many good arguments that have not been offered any adequate explanation that once you see it...it's almost laughable.
I don't care or have an emotional investment in it. Just another series of b#llshit public relations jobs done by the american government with a sinister political agenda. It doesn't surprise or shock me in the slightest that they faked the moon landings given it was impossible to do at the time , and probably still is. The vietnam or Iraq wars are far more shocking and sophisticated examples of what they are capable of. |
sure I was just pointing out the flaw in your logic.
I've also read up on the topic.
A lot of evidence against the moon landings as you mentioned.
The one thing that I find hard to overocme though is that literally over a quarter of a million people were involved in varying degrees in working on the project... how could that many people be duped and how could not ONE OF THEM have leaked that the whole thing was a fraud... Even despite the fact that yes some people who were involved very high up in the project later died in suspicious curcumstances that looked like coverups, I still can't get my brain to accept that that many people were fooled into working on and believing in the project's authenticity if it was not real... it would be too much of a logistical nightmare... It's hard to believe that not more people would have leaked info that would decredit the moon landings.... You literally need only a handful of pople in on the fraud controlling thousands of others and duping them (hmm sound slike the US govt of today lol...)
I'm still agnostic to be honest as a lot of the sites that decredit the landings and the photos of it are themselves decredited by other scientific sources.
I do trully believe the JFK was killed by the CIA or FBI though, that one's a no brainer, he was too left wing.... |
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Jandar
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| Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 10:59 pm Post subject: |
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History much?
"...he was too left wing."
Kennedy cut taxes. |
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Grab the Chickens Levi
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History much?
"...he was too left wing."
Kennedy cut taxes. |
And wanted to end Nam. |
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CentralCali
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| Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 11:08 pm Post subject: |
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| There is zero evidence against the moon landings. What the nutjobs call evidence is stuff they pretend to mean something else and also stuff they just plain made up. |
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bovinerebel
Joined: 27 Feb 2008
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| Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 11:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Grab the Chickens Levi wrote: |
| bovinerebel wrote: |
| Grab the Chickens Levi wrote: |
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| we never went to the moon....the really silly thing to believe is that we did in 1969.....before we'd invented the pocket calculater..... |
Lol, you're making a fool of yourself with this gem...
It would be like saying it's silly to beleive we created the sputnick sattelite in the 1950's because the desktop calculator hand't been invented yet...
or silly to believe we created the nuclear bomb in the 1940's as the desktop calculator hadn't been invented yet...
Now, I'm not saying we did or didn't go to the moon, but your argument just does not hold weight. |
It's not an argument , but it's a curious fact that the Japanese and Chinese space programs can still not put a man on the moon despite being far more highly technologically advanced than the Americans were at the same stage. Nor could and have the Russians either despite at the same time being more highly advanced than the Americans. It's all down to the immense amount of protection needed from radiation in space for a human being to survive and weight ratios that would involve in the rocket technology. Also it doesn't help that the photos from the moon are riddled with hot spots and unnatural lighting and shadows , that there is actual footage of them staging being further from the earth than they actually were . Actually there are so many good arguments that have not been offered any adequate explanation that once you see it...it's almost laughable.
I don't care or have an emotional investment in it. Just another series of b#llshit public relations jobs done by the american government with a sinister political agenda. It doesn't surprise or shock me in the slightest that they faked the moon landings given it was impossible to do at the time , and probably still is. The vietnam or Iraq wars are far more shocking and sophisticated examples of what they are capable of. |
sure I was just pointing out the flaw in your logic.
I've also read up on the topic.
A lot of evidence against the moon landings as you mentioned.
The one thing that I find hard to overocme though is that literally over a quarter of a million people were involved in varying degrees in working on the project... how could that many people be duped and how could not ONE OF THEM have leaked that the whole thing was a fraud... Even despite the fact that yes some people who were involved very high up in the project later died in suspicious curcumstances that looked like coverups, I still can't get my brain to accept that that many people were fooled into working on and believing in the project's authenticity if it was not real... it would be too much of a logistical nightmare... It's hard to believe that not more people would have leaked info that would decredit the moon landings.... You literally need only a handful of pople in on the fraud controlling thousands of others and duping them (hmm sound slike the US govt of today lol...)
I'm still agnostic to be honest as a lot of the sites that decredit the landings and the photos of it are themselves decredited by other scientific sources.
I do trully believe the JFK was killed by the CIA or FBI though, that one's a no brainer, he was too left wing.... |
Yes of course that's a very good question. The answer is simple. The data feedback for the mission was fed into the system or recorded from a previously probed mission. It's a complex and sophisticated solution , but far less so than it would have taken to actually land a person on the moon. Only a very few people would have to be in on it. Think about it...you are arguing that to fake the moon landings would have been harder than to carry them out which is bizare considering the nature of what it would take to survive in such lethal radiation.
It's good to question these things though. Far too many crazy idiots run around calling everyone else sheep for not questioning things , yet they themselves never even question their own crazy conspiracy theories. For me on this one though there were just too many laughable scr#w ups made in this whole sham , with very poor counter explanations for me to believe we landed on the moon. Once you resign yourself to that you can look at photos from the moon and it's just so freakishly badly done.....the lighting ...the dark lightless shadows and hotspots so eerily unatural from what you'd expect to find on a sun lit surface..... you are in awe they ever managed to sell this idea to anyone in the first place. The fact that anyone can even look at those photos and think it in anyway represents who you could expect to find in reality is a testament to how the human mind can e | |
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