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Bush, One of America's Greatest Presidents?
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee



Joined: 25 May 2003

PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 6:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sure the US made mistakes in the cold war and Iran in 1953 was probably close to the worst. But the US apologized for that , Khomeni's secret police were just as cruel and it doesn't justify Iran's actions 30 , 40 years later.
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bacasper



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 6:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote:
Sure the US made mistakes in the cold war and Iran in 1953 was probably close to the worst. But the US apologized for that , Khomeni's secret police were just as cruel and it doesn't justify Iran's actions 30 , 40 years later.

Have you got a link to that apology?
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RJjr



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 6:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zenas wrote:
Glad to see someone who realizes what's going on. Ethnic Jews have been lied to and deceived as much as the rest of us. All of us have a stake in putting an end to this insanity and putting the Zionist criminals where the belong, hanging from a noose, just like they did to Saddam. Saddam looks awful tame now doesn't he?


I'm definitely not for any death or lynchings of anyone. There's too much violence in the world already. Besides, if oil goes up to $300+ after an Israeli bombing and the American economy collapses, I'm worried that rednecks might try to lump me in with the Zionists the same way that innocent Muslims and even Sikhs were attacked after 9/11. And even though Saddam sucked ass, he probably wasn't as bad as Sadr or the other leaders of the various fragments of what used to be Iraq.
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee



Joined: 25 May 2003

PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 6:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.nationalreview.com/lowry/lowry200311030753.asp

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Clinton made his semi-apology to Iran before officially requesting its cooperation in the Khobar case, which he did only in October 1999 and never backed up with international pressure.



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Clinton told his audience in Davos, as well as Charlie Rose, that during his presidency he had �formally apologized on behalf of the United States� for what he termed �American crimes against Iran.�

But what were those �crimes�? Clinton summed them thus: �It�s a sad story that really began in the 1950s when the United States deposed Mr. Mossadegh, who was an elected parliamentary democrat, and brought the Shah back and then he was overturned by the Ayatollah Khomeini, driving us into the arms of one Saddam Hussein. We got rid of the parliamentary democracy {there} back in the �50s; at least, that is my belief.�



http://www.arabnews.com/?page=7&section=0&article=59952&d=5&m=3&y=2005
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RJjr



Joined: 17 Aug 2006
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 7:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote:
Well I tried to join more than you ever did


Failure doesn't count.

Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote:
what is the difference between Afghanistan and Iraq?


We've been in Afghanistan for 7 years and it's a mess, whereas we've been in Iraq for 5 years and it's a mess.

Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote:
You on the other hand are a neo nazi bigot into anti jewish conspiracy theories who thinks the US ought to give in to Iran's demands cause Iran has oil.


What is Iran demanding from us? Share your anti gentile conspiracy theory.

Been in an American grocery store lately?[/quote]

Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote:
cuts the trade deficit and outsourcing .


Again... http://www.cattlenetwork.com/Content.asp?ContentID=230814

You celebrate the fall of the dollar as a good thing for America, yet Americans are having to pay 80.33% more for wheat than one year ago. That is not good for America.

Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote:
Not the same Kurds. the ones who do that are the PKK not the Kurds the US supports you ignorant fascist.


Yeah, just like the Israelis that murdered the American sailors of the USS Liberty weren't the same Israelis we've been supporting over the years. Rolling Eyes

Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote:
You are still a Jew hating bigot. Who advocates the US give in to its enemies.


That's rich coming from a Gentile hating bigot who wants our troops stranded overseas until you think it's okay for them to finally come home *McCain's "could be a hundred years, could be a million" echoing in the background*

Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote:
Just remember you are the one who says it ok for Iran to go after the US cause the US put sanctions on them.


You're making that up.

Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote:
By the way did you tip your hookers this weekend?


Not this weekend, but you bring up an interesting topic with prostitution. The prostitution issue sounds a lot like the nuclear issue doesn't it, with Israelis against it unless they're the ones with them?

http://www.adishakti.org/_/haredin_(orthodox_Jews)_who_crowd_brothels.htm
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ddeubel



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 5:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Put another dime in the Joo box baby!

DD
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bacasper



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 7:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote:
http://www.nationalreview.com/lowry/lowry200311030753.asp

Quote:

Clinton made his semi-apology to Iran before officially requesting its cooperation in the Khobar case, which he did only in October 1999 and never backed up with international pressure.



Quote:

Clinton told his audience in Davos, as well as Charlie Rose, that during his presidency he had �formally apologized on behalf of the United States� for what he termed �American crimes against Iran.�

But what were those �crimes�? Clinton summed them thus: �It�s a sad story that really began in the 1950s when the United States deposed Mr. Mossadegh, who was an elected parliamentary democrat, and brought the Shah back and then he was overturned by the Ayatollah Khomeini, driving us into the arms of one Saddam Hussein. We got rid of the parliamentary democracy {there} back in the �50s; at least, that is my belief.�



http://www.arabnews.com/?page=7&section=0&article=59952&d=5&m=3&y=2005

Thanks for that.

What was Iran's response to the apology?
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agentX



Joined: 12 Oct 2007
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 6:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bush, a great president? Now I know some of y'all are on drugs.
Did that Canadian super-weed arrive?

When real historians, not revisionists like Conservapedia, start writing the history books about the Bush admin's 8u year "reign of terror/stupidity", they're going to take a critical look at his many, many failings.
Like these.
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The 10 Most Awesomely Bad Moments of the Bush Presidency

You can read the whole list here, but for the sake of time here's the list without explanation:
10. Bush Gets Re-elected (cheating in Ohio)
9. Alberto Gonzales' Congressional Testimony
8. North Korea Conducts a Nuclear Test
7. Colin Powell's Bogus WMD Presentation at the U.N.
6. The Terri Schiavo Affair
5. Bush and Condi's Excellent Gaza Adventure
4. "Brownie, You're Doing a Heckuva Job" (Hurricane FEMA)
3. Abu Ghraib
2. 9/11
1. "Mission Accomplished"

I would like to add
15. "Losing" thousands of e-mails
14. 'If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator.'
13. Turning the DOD over to KBR
12. Walter Reed
11. Anthrax scares/TSA meltdowns/Liberty City 7
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bacasper



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

agentX wrote:
Bush, a great president? Now I know some of y'all are on drugs.
Did that Canadian super-weed arrive?

When real historians, not revisionists like Conservapedia, start writing the history books about the Bush admin's 8u year "reign of terror/stupidity", they're going to take a critical look at his many, many failings.
Like these.
Quote:
The 10 Most Awesomely Bad Moments of the Bush Presidency

You can read the whole list here, but for the sake of time here's the list without explanation:
10. Bush Gets Re-elected (cheating in Ohio)
9. Alberto Gonzales' Congressional Testimony
8. North Korea Conducts a Nuclear Test
7. Colin Powell's Bogus WMD Presentation at the U.N.
6. The Terri Schiavo Affair
5. Bush and Condi's Excellent Gaza Adventure
4. "Brownie, You're Doing a Heckuva Job" (Hurricane FEMA)
3. Abu Ghraib
2. 9/11
1. "Mission Accomplished"

I would like to add
15. "Losing" thousands of e-mails
14. 'If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator.'
13. Turning the DOD over to KBR
12. Walter Reed
11. Anthrax scares/TSA meltdowns/Liberty City 7

What about, "The Constitution is just a goddamn piece of paper!"
What about, "She said, 'Please don't kill me.'"
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yawarakaijin



Joined: 08 Aug 2006

PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about, "The Constitution is just a goddamn piece of paper!"

While I am inclined to believe you, do you have any evidence that this was a direct quote of Bush? It's one of those things that I have heard repeated time and time again but am unaware of the source and/or the validity of the quote.

If it is a direct quote, I fear for the future of American politics that this bum hasn't been thrown out already. A disgraceful comment that would shed some light on the core of this man's being, if true.
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bacasper



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yawarakaijin wrote:
What about, "The Constitution is just a goddamn piece of paper!"

While I am inclined to believe you, do you have any evidence that this was a direct quote of Bush? It's one of those things that I have heard repeated time and time again but am unaware of the source and/or the validity of the quote.

If it is a direct quote, I fear for the future of American politics that this bum hasn't been thrown out already. A disgraceful comment that would shed some light on the core of this man's being, if true.


"Goddamn Piece of Paper"

Washington, DC. Dec 14th, 2005 ---- There are multiple reports flying round DC that if true need to be addressed by both Houses of Congress in an Impeachment hearing. President Bush, who many believe is becoming more unstable every day is reported to have had the following exchanges during a meeting with Congressional leaders according to Doug Thompson, reporting in Capitol Hill Blue:

"GOP leaders told Bush that his hardcore push to renew the more onerous provisions of the act could further alienate conservatives still mad at the President from his botched attempt to nominate White House Counsel Harriet Miers to the Supreme Court.

�I don�t give a goddamn,� Bush retorted. �I�m the President and the Commander-in-Chief. Do it my way.�

�Mr. President,� one aide in the meeting said. �There is a valid case that the provisions in this law undermine the Constitution.�

�Stop throwing the Constitution in my face,� Bush screamed back. �It�s just a goddamned piece of paper!�

Doug Thompson wrote that he had talked to three people present for the meeting that day and they all confirm that the President of the United States called the Constitution �a goddamned piece of paper."
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kuros wrote:
contrarian wrote:
1. The biggest cause for the rise in price of oil is the global warming scam.


Walk us through how the 'global warming scam' has caused an increase in oil prices. Because I don't even understand how this is possible.


Global whating? The world is heating up? I thought that was the case anyway. What am I missing?
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yawarakaijin



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bacasper wrote:
yawarakaijin wrote:
What about, "The Constitution is just a goddamn piece of paper!"

While I am inclined to believe you, do you have any evidence that this was a direct quote of Bush? It's one of those things that I have heard repeated time and time again but am unaware of the source and/or the validity of the quote.

If it is a direct quote, I fear for the future of American politics that this bum hasn't been thrown out already. A disgraceful comment that would shed some light on the core of this man's being, if true.


"Goddamn Piece of Paper"

Washington, DC. Dec 14th, 2005 ---- There are multiple reports flying round DC that if true need to be addressed by both Houses of Congress in an Impeachment hearing. President Bush, who many believe is becoming more unstable every day is reported to have had the following exchanges during a meeting with Congressional leaders according to Doug Thompson, reporting in Capitol Hill Blue:

"GOP leaders told Bush that his hardcore push to renew the more onerous provisions of the act could further alienate conservatives still mad at the President from his botched attempt to nominate White House Counsel Harriet Miers to the Supreme Court.

�I don�t give a goddamn,� Bush retorted. �I�m the President and the Commander-in-Chief. Do it my way.�

�Mr. President,� one aide in the meeting said. �There is a valid case that the provisions in this law undermine the Constitution.�

�Stop throwing the Constitution in my face,� Bush screamed back. �It�s just a goddamned piece of paper!�

Doug Thompson wrote that he had talked to three people present for the meeting that day and they all confirm that the President of the United States called the Constitution �a goddamned piece of paper."


If those sources are reputable I would say that the media, democratic leadership and the american people are the only ones to blame for letting him off the hook. It's often said that you get the leaders you deserve.
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bacasper



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yawarakaijin wrote:
bacasper wrote:
yawarakaijin wrote:
What about, "The Constitution is just a goddamn piece of paper!"

While I am inclined to believe you, do you have any evidence that this was a direct quote of Bush? It's one of those things that I have heard repeated time and time again but am unaware of the source and/or the validity of the quote.

If it is a direct quote, I fear for the future of American politics that this bum hasn't been thrown out already. A disgraceful comment that would shed some light on the core of this man's being, if true.


"Goddamn Piece of Paper"

Washington, DC. Dec 14th, 2005 ---- There are multiple reports flying round DC that if true need to be addressed by both Houses of Congress in an Impeachment hearing. President Bush, who many believe is becoming more unstable every day is reported to have had the following exchanges during a meeting with Congressional leaders according to Doug Thompson, reporting in Capitol Hill Blue:

"GOP leaders told Bush that his hardcore push to renew the more onerous provisions of the act could further alienate conservatives still mad at the President from his botched attempt to nominate White House Counsel Harriet Miers to the Supreme Court.

�I don�t give a goddamn,� Bush retorted. �I�m the President and the Commander-in-Chief. Do it my way.�

�Mr. President,� one aide in the meeting said. �There is a valid case that the provisions in this law undermine the Constitution.�

�Stop throwing the Constitution in my face,� Bush screamed back. �It�s just a goddamned piece of paper!�

Doug Thompson wrote that he had talked to three people present for the meeting that day and they all confirm that the President of the United States called the Constitution �a goddamned piece of paper."


If those sources are reputable I would say that the media, democratic leadership and the american people are the only ones to blame for letting him off the hook. It's often said that you get the leaders you deserve.

Don't blame me. I never voted for him, both elections were stolen for him, and I have supported impeachment from early on.

It is not even totally right to blame the American people, most of whom did not vote for him in 2000. The blame lies with the media and their corporate masters. In a free society, the media are necessary to have an informed electorate. Most people have neither the time nor inclination to spend hours learning like you or I might to get a better understanding of issues.

The media are supposed to be corporate and government watchdogs, but instead have been turned into their lapdogs.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 3:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'm definitely not for any death or lynchings of anyone. There's too much violence in the world already.


Probably because the future violent perps don't get to watch a lynching on the town square like they used to.

Bush Cheney Chertoff Silverstein Betrayus and a host of others particularly those behind the Palestinian genocide and the Iraqi war - need to stretch a rope - in public - at high noon - with special arrangements made for YouTube video cameras.
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