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[mindmetoo]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080801/ts_nm/usa_anthrax_dc_3
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/aug/01/anthrax.terrorism?gusrc=rss&feed=worldnews

Was this the guy responsible or was it a case of Richard Jewell?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Jewell

I would imagine if you're innocent and unfairly fingered by the FBI as bio terrorists, you might find you can't do the job you love and end up taking your own life.

[RufusW]

I haven't even read the articles - but this is a cover-up right? Fake suicide, I believe, all to get American's nice and scared. Why would an anthrax scientist be stupid enough to post anthrax off to people!? (Unless he was in on the plot).

[mindmetoo]

[Cheonmunka]

Doesn't it come back to that old adage, 'Live by the sword die by the sword?'
I mean, here you are making a powder that kills people when they touch it. It's madness to conceive such a hideous thing.
We are culpable somewhere along the line. In this case we might assume that the madness becomes malignant and (self) destructive.

[Ya-ta Boy]

[mindmetoo]

[huffdaddy]

[Ya-ta Boy]

I agree with huffdaddy's observation that if they were trying to frame someone in order to make a power grab, they'd be framing someone with a name like Hussein, not Bruce. And they wouldn't have waited 7 years to do it. Just before the Nov. '06 elections would have been more likely.

Besides, without some kind of evidence, I see no reason why this possibility is even being discussed. Chronic anti-gov't clap trap.

[RufusW]

Well the anthrax already served its purpose, now they just need to cover their tracks. 7 years, nice long time for people to forget....

I remember at least some of the envelopes and letters were written to look like they came from a middle-eastern writer.

[mindmetoo]

[bacasper]

Friday, August 1, 2008

Government Tries to Bury Anthrax Story

The government is trying to bury the 2001 anthrax attack scandal (the anthrax came from a U.S. military base) by claiming that one of the key suspects - Bruce E. Ivins - was a "lone nut" who committed suicide. The government claims that the anthrax letters were an innocent mistake which was "part of an Army scientist's warped plan to test his cure for the deadly toxin". Case closed.

There are just a couple of loose ends:


Ivins "was actually part of a team that helped the government investigate the anthrax attacks after Sept. 11"

"The attacks were not entirely unexpected", according to a journalist, who was urged soon after 9/11 to take Cipro by a high-level government official (confirmation that government employees started taking Cipro before the Anthrax attacks here). As Michael Fury put it, "So even if Ivins was involved, how would 'a high government official' know that a rogue bioweapons scientist was going to 'go postal' with anthrax if that 'high government official' was not himself involved?"

If Ivins was trying to "test his cure for the deadly toxin", why did he only send anthrax to the members of Congress most likely to say no to the Patriot Act and to people within the media? (I guess the Unabomber's lawyer should have argued that his client sent bombs to certain specific people involved in the technology field because he was testing defenses to bombs). And why didn't Ivins send his "cure" to the targets before he mailed the anthrax? How could that be a "test [of] "his cure"?

Why did the anthrax letters attempt to link 9/11 and the anthrax attack and pretend to be from radical Muslims and be anti-America and anti-Israel, if they really came from an American with a warped plan but good intentions?

Why did the U.S. government - including, apparently, the people responsible for sending the anthrax letters - falsely claim that the materials in the anthrax proved that it was manufactured in Iraq? Would a disgruntled "lone nut" be motivated to concoct a false justification for invading Iraq?

"The FBI has completely shut Congress out of its now five-year investigation into anthrax attacks on Capitol Hill and around the nation". In other words, Congress -- which legally has every right to know what really happened, and which was the main victim of the attack -- is being kept in the dark. Why is that?

An entirely different guy was actually caught on tape entering the storage area where the anthrax used in the letters was stored, without proper authorization and after being fired from his job over a racially motivated attack on an Egyptian co-worker. But instead of investigating him, or Ivins, the FBI spent years wasting time and falsely accusing an innocent guy.

The lawyer who had been representing Ivins in connection with the anthrax investigation categorically maintains Ivins' innocence

But its only crackpots who think that these loose ends point towards anything sinister, right? Well, the bioweapons expert who actually drafted the current bioweapons law (the Biological Weapons Anti-Terrorism Act of 1989), says he is convinced that the anthrax attacks that killed five people were perpetrated and covered up by criminal elements of the U.S. government. The motive: to foment a police state by killing off and intimidating opposition to post-9/11 legislation such as the USA PATRIOT Act and the later Military Commissions Act.

Is he right?

Maybe, but he clearly forgot one motive: to justify war against Iraq.

Note: Even if Ivins was the killer, and even if he did act alone, it was still a false flag attack. Why?

Because Ivins was solidly in the Judeo-Christian, not Muslim, camp, and yet the anthrax letters were made to frame Muslims for the attack. For example, Ivins was a parishioner and musician at St. John the Evangelist Roman Catholic Church. And he wrote:

"By blood and faith, Jews are God's chosen"
One thing is clear: he wasn't a Muslim.

[nautilus]

This is what happened.

Oh, cr*p, I spilled a bit on my hand..oh..no...aaaaaarrrrrrrrrgggghhh!!.

[SirFink]

[huffdaddy]

[some waygug-in]

Things I can't believe about this case:


I can't believe that someone alone could have pulled this off.

Why? Surely the security at such a facility would prevent this, and if not
why aren't people up in arms about such a lax security system?


You mean to say that the government would hire a pyscho to work at a biological weapons testing facility?

You really believe that they wouldn't have known if this guy were apt to do such a thing?

You really believe their security was so lax that he could have just waltzed in and out and nobody was the wiser?

Which is more likely, that this guy is a wacko who just happened to slip through all the screening processes....

or

He knew too much and is now a convenient patsy enabling the investigation to be prevented from going any further?