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Pooty
Joined: 15 Jun 2008
Location: Ela stin agalia mou
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It's no secret that Spain is a racist country.
These are the same people who throw bananas at black soccer players and chant nigger everytime a black player touches the ball. Even against there own teams players.  |
Oh yeah, let's not forget the racist Korean TV skit where the actors painted their faces black a couple of years ago. Anyone got a link to that?
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=YNKO7E7BBKM
So it's perfectly OK when Koreans (or Asians) act this way, but when anyone else does something perceived to be racist, everyone suddenly comes out of the woodwork to complain..got it.
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the standard textbooks for sixth grade English class in Korea featured a lesson on "where are you from?"
The CD rom that came with it had a cartoon skit:
Kid in a hanbok: " I'm from Korea!"Razz
kid in a top hat and tails: " I'm from England!" Confused
kid in a cowboy costume: " I'm from America!" Confused
kid in a loincloth and a bone through his nose: " I'm from Africa!" Shocked
This was in use in 2006, though I've heard they're working on replacing that text. I taught the lesson, but refused to show that clip from cd rom |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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Yeah, okay, its racist. But its not the same class as racism which ends up with a certain class persecuted and dead.
This was simply in extremely poor taste. They should apologize, and we should all move on. |
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milspecs
Joined: 19 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 2:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Pooty wrote: |
| milspecs wrote: |
It's no secret that Spain is a racist country.
These are the same people who throw bananas at black soccer players and chant nigger everytime a black player touches the ball. Even against there own teams players. |
Oh yeah, let's not forget the racist Korean TV skit where the actors painted their faces black a couple of years ago. Anyone got a link to that?
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=YNKO7E7BBKM
So it's perfectly OK when Koreans (or Asians) act this way, but when anyone else does something perceived to be racist, everyone suddenly comes out of the woodwork to complain..got it.
To quote Peppermint:
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the standard textbooks for sixth grade English class in Korea featured a lesson on "where are you from?"
The CD rom that came with it had a cartoon skit:
Kid in a hanbok: " I'm from Korea!"Razz
kid in a top hat and tails: " I'm from England!" Confused
kid in a cowboy costume: " I'm from America!" Confused
kid in a loincloth and a bone through his nose: " I'm from Africa!" Shocked
This was in use in 2006, though I've heard they're working on replacing that text. I taught the lesson, but refused to show that clip from cd rom |
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Please point out where I've said it is OK for South Korea to do these things. I merely pointed out how Spain treats certain black soccer players.
Christ you people on Daves are so pathetic. You complain about "apologists" people who always bring up "well the West does it!"
And then you come at me with this? 
Not once on here have I said, oh its ok for Korea to be racist but not other countries.
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Pooty
Joined: 15 Jun 2008
Location: Ela stin agalia mou
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| Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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Please point out where I've said it is OK for South Korea to do these things. I merely pointed out how Spain treats certain black soccer players.
Christ you people on Daves are so pathetic. You complain about "apologists" people who always bring up "well the West does it!"
And then you come at me with this?
Not once on here have I said, oh its ok for Korea to be racist but not other countries.
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You people? YOU PEOPLE?
You racist! |
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DCJames
Joined: 27 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 4:28 pm Post subject: |
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| The Chinese are busting their asses trying to be taken seriously by the world and put on a good Olympics and then these backwards ass spanish people pull this crap. |
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catman
Joined: 18 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 8:49 pm Post subject: Another Spanish National Team slit-eye gesture picture |
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Another Spanish National Team slit-eye gesture picture
Done by the Spanish Fed Cup Team this time
Picture |
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toki
Joined: 06 Feb 2006
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| Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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It's racist if it's deliberately demeaning or it plays upon a negative stereotype.
The only way the photo can be racist is if:
a. Having narrow eyes is a negative stereotype in the mind of Chinese
b. The team intended to demean Chinese people
I don't think having narrow eyes makes a Chinese man feel diminished. It remains to be seen if the team intended to demean Chinese people and context is important here. |
I think posing in such a way came from a place of deep ignorance. Trying to rationalize and/or justify the intent behind the picture doesn't make it any less offensive. Also, I can't imagine in what context parodying "Chinese eyes" would be deemed acceptable. |
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travel zen
Joined: 22 Feb 2005
Location: Good old Toronto, Canada
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| Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 2:53 am Post subject: |
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| I've talked with some fellow Americans who haven't seen it as a problem. |
Those people !!! 
I can't see how they can rationalize hateful mockery? They must think they are better.
Growing up, combating that type of hatred and racism was what I liked. I was a bit of a bully then. Anyone who looked sideways was beaten |
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Toon Army
Joined: 12 Mar 2007
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anyone seen this? This time against a South American
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=q4OXjCuLUbY
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regarding the picture, if these players were in black face for the next world cup, it would be a much bigger deal but to me it is the same thing.......perhaps they can ask the advice of the fans?
[img]http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/02_01/ZLewisHamilton_468x308.jpg[/img] |
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Privateer
Joined: 31 Aug 2005
Location: Easy Street.
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Honestly, I think they thought they were being cute. Not just from what they say about the 'affectionate gesture' but from the expressions and smiles in the picture - those are not smiles of malice or ridicule.
I guess they were oblivious to the high level of sensitivity in the anglophone world - and probably in Northern Europe too? (I can't imagine the Germans, Dutch, or even French doing this). Coming from a Brit or American etc this gesture could only be interpreted as intentionally racist, but the Spanish probably didn't know it would be taken that way. That makes them 'backward' in a way but we shouldn't be too harsh in our condemnations. Let the Chinese slam them for it if they want - but the Chinese don't seem bothered.
Ironically, the Chinese seem much more sensitive to Western criticisms on their human rights records and on cheating at the Olympics, and react with almost as much outrage as if we had collectively pulled our eyes into slits at them. |
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aliciarc416
Joined: 25 Jun 2008
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I am African American and i have been to Spain. I would have to say they are pretty ignorant to these things. i was never called anything except by a little kid that said in Spanish that i was ugly, fat and black as if i couldn't understand simple Spanish. But it was a kid.
What was bad was most of the souvenir's stores and some regular stores i went into had figurines of big lipped, dark black people typically depicted being lazy, eating watermelon or smoking pot. So i'm not surprised that they did it and that they probably see nothing wrong with. I fail to see what the point was and if it was meant to be funny, it was not.
Was what they did racist, well it depends on what your definition of racism is, which seems to be what most you posters are talking about. But is certain is that is was done in poor taste and ignorance. |
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travel zen
Joined: 22 Feb 2005
Location: Good old Toronto, Canada
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| anyone seen this? This time against a South American |
I don't get it. Is there a South American look to her?
Then again, I don't get hatred at that level  It takes a special kind of a$$ to beat a pretty girl. |
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A2Steve
Joined: 10 Nov 2007
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all the finest entertainers are willing to work in Black Face. and probably the funniest was actually Eddie Murphy, who worked in WHITE face!
It was a Sat. Night Live mini-movie where he was in White makeup, and got to see New York from a Caucasian perspective. He even saw how easy it is to get money at a Bank if your not from that race that never pays their loans back. 
And don't hate on Spain too much. If not for their work in the middle ages, Europe would be crawling with Muslims, instead of being dumb and letting them in during the late 20th century. El Cid bought Europe a century or four! Besides, they learned their lesson. Team USA and their negros really showed them who's boss, at least on the Chink court. |
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catman
Joined: 18 Jul 2004
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At least they lost the gold medal game.  |
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