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| How long is Korea's history? |
| 700,000 years old - Arrival of the first hominids |
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2% |
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| 10,000 years old - evidence of the first pottery |
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2% |
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| 5,000 years old - Bear in a cave eats sacred garlic, becomes a woman and has a baby, Dangun, with the god Hwangnung. Dangun "founds" Pyeongyang. Dangun becomes a mountain god at the ripe old age of 1908 |
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27% |
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| 1400 years old - Unified Shilla first Kingdom to effectively control the entire Korean peninsula |
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37% |
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| 600 years old - Joseon dynasty controls entire peninsula until 1910 |
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5% |
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| 60 years old - Republic of Korea (SK) founded in 1948 |
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25% |
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kiwiduncan
Joined: 18 Jun 2007
Location: New Zealand
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 Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 7:57 pm Post subject: How long is Korea's history? |
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| Compared to New Zealand, where it's believed there were absolutely no people before about 1000 years ago, the human history of the Korean peninsula is incredibly long and complicated. But just how long do you think it is? |
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sjrm
Joined: 27 Jul 2005
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| Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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| History of exactly what?! |
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ajgeddes
Joined: 28 Apr 2004
Location: Yongsan
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| Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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| I said 60, because you asked about Korea. If you have asked about the Korean people, it would have been much longer. |
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DRAMA OVERKILL
Joined: 12 Apr 2005
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| Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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| ajgeddes wrote: |
| I said 60, because you asked about Korea. If you have asked about the Korean people, it would have been much longer. |
Good point.
Anyway, who knows? Really. Korean people can't even agree upon this. It seems there is no consensus among them. Everyone throws out a different number depending on their age and where they're from in Korea (and depending on how many drinks they've had and how intense their patriotism is at a particular moment). |
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Ilsanman
Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Bucheon, Korea
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| Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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Flawed poll, so I won't vote.
4333 years ago or so was Dangun. Even though it's full of shit, it is the first 'recognized' part of their history. But people here can't count. |
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SeoulFinn
Joined: 27 Feb 2006
Location: 1h from Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 11:01 pm Post subject: |
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| D'oh! 668 AD. The birth of "Korea". |
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BreakfastInBed
Joined: 16 Oct 2007
Location: Gyeonggi do
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| Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 11:09 pm Post subject: |
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I'll give them the 5,000. There doesn't seem to be much of even a mythological history/memory beyond that, and things do grow more solid from then on, albeit slowly.
Of course, we can complicate things by asking if we're talking about a Korean race or a Korean nation, and whose ideas of race and/or nation. That isn't much fun though. |
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Ilsanman
Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Bucheon, Korea
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| Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 12:14 am Post subject: |
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WHAT is 2333 + 2008? THAT's when the legend of DANGUN happened.
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I'll give them the 5,000. There doesn't seem to be much of even a mythological history/memory beyond that, and things do grow more solid from then on, albeit slowly.
Of course, we can complicate things by asking if we're talking about a Korean race or a Korean nation, and whose ideas of race and/or nation. That isn't much fun though. |
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LuckyNomad
Joined: 28 May 2007
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| Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 1:03 am Post subject: |
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The correct answer will always be: older than China. 
My question: In 3,000 5,000 or 100,000 years of history, what exactly are the great accomplishments? I realize that according to the OECD, Koreans are very inefficient, but 5,000 years ought to be enough time to do more than create Hangeul, which contributes nothing to the rest of humanity. How can you be proud of 5,000 years of nothing? |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 2:10 am Post subject: |
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| You can't have history until you have writing. When are the first dated references to Korea? Anything before that is pre-history. Legends, folk tales and archeological finds tell you a lot, but they are not history. |
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BreakfastInBed
Joined: 16 Oct 2007
Location: Gyeonggi do
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| Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 3:21 am Post subject: |
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| Ilsanman wrote: |
| WHAT is 2333 + 2008? THAT's when the legend of DANGUN happened. |
Oh that's right. He was in the 50th year of that one legendary mythic Chinese ruler traditionally said to have ruled around that time.
4341 years it is. |
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zpeanut
Joined: 12 Mar 2008
Location: Pohang, Korea
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| Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 3:31 am Post subject: |
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Korean history was apparently set according to Chinese history. The Chinese claim 5000.. so... thats pretty much it.
| LuckyNomad wrote: |
The correct answer will always be: older than China.
My question: In 3,000 5,000 or 100,000 years of history, what exactly are the great accomplishments? I realize that according to the OECD, Koreans are very inefficient, but 5,000 years ought to be enough time to do more than create Hangeul, which contributes nothing to the rest of humanity. How can you be proud of 5,000 years of nothing? |
Don't forget the Japanese interrupted big time half way through and big brother China was always looking over their shoulders. |
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IncognitoHFX
Joined: 06 May 2007
Location: Yeongtong, Suwon
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| Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 5:25 am Post subject: |
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Korea is exactly one year, two months and fourteen days old. That's the day I came here.
How should I know if Korea existed before that? I wasn't here. I didn't see it.
Is anyone actually here? or is it just me... |
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warren pease
Joined: 12 May 2008
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| Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 6:08 am Post subject: |
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| 4.4999999999999 Billion years. Yes, that is a fact. |
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Guri Guy
Joined: 07 Sep 2003
Location: Bamboo Island
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| Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:12 am Post subject: |
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The following is a timeline of early Korean History. Information presented on this timeline comes from the USC Berkley history seminar, 1994. It is the product of the research of Stephen Jungels, Sungnam Kim and Teresa Sanchez.
Ancient Korea
700000 B.C Start of human habitation
6000 BC-4,000 BC New stone age in Korean peninsula
2333 BC Founding of old Choson by Tangun
1122 BC Alleged arrival of Kija from Shang China (contentious)
approx. 1000BC Start of bronze working in Liaodong peninsula (Ex. Pipa-like bronze daggers)
311 BC Invasion of Qinkai of Yen, loss of 2000-li territory
194 BC Wiman usurps the throne of Chosun's King Jun
108 BC Invasion by Emperor Wudi of Han dynasty and establishment of Four Commandaries (highly controversial)
82 BC Commandaries Zhenfan and Lindun eliminated
75 BC Xuantu commadary removed from peninsula
"Three Kingdoms" Era
76 BC - 56 AD Formation of various states: Puyo, Chinhan , Mahan, Pyonhan, Okcho, Tongye, etc.
57 B C Founding of Shilla
37 BC Founding of Koguryo
18 BC Founding of Paekche
42 AD Founding of Kaya
49AD First record of contact between Puyo and China
244 AD Wei invasion of Koguryo
246 AD Paekche take-over of Liaoxi
342 AD Invasion of Koguryo by Murong-huang of Xianb i
369 AD Paekche eliminated Mahan
371 AD Paekche invasion of Koguryo; Koguryo's king Koguk-won killed
372 AD Koguryo acceptance of Buddhism
384 AD Paekche importation of Buddhism
391 AD--409 AD Reign of King Kwanggaet'o
433 AD Paekche-Shilla military alliance formed
475AD Major Koguryo invasion of Paekche; Pae kche moves capital to Ung-jin (pr esent Kongju)
520 AD Major institutional reforms by Shilla's king P�p-heung
532 AD Shilla annexation of Great Kaya (Tae Kaya)
538 AD Song-wang moves Paekche capital to Sabi (present Puyo)
551 AD Shilla breaks pact with Paekche. Takes over Han river area. Paekche's S�ng-wang killed in battle.
562 AD Complete Shilla annexation of Kaya
612 AD Major Sui invasion o f Koguryo; crushed by Ulchi- mundok and Koguryo army at Sal-su
642 AD Invasion by Taizong of Tang against Koguryo; routed at Ansi fortress
654 AD Death of Yonkae- somun
660 AD Shilla-Tang allied forces conquer Paekche
663 AD Defeat of the Paekche restoration movement
668 AD Fall of Koguryo to Shilla-Tang army
671 AD Shilla drives out Tang army stationed in old Paekche territory
676 AD Shilla defeats Tang near Mae-cho fortress, complete hegemony over much of the peninsula (present Yong-i n)
North-South Kingdom Era
681 AD King Shinmun of Shilla conducts major political purge to reaffirm royal authority
698 AD Establishment of Jin-kuk (Palhae) by Tae Jo-yong
705 AD Normalization of Tang-Palhae relations: Tang recognition of Palhae existence
721 AD Shilla builds a long wall on Palhae border
731 AD Successful Palhae occupation of Dengzhou, Shandong
733 AD Shilla-Tang invasion of Palhae. Not successful.
751 AD Construction of Pulguk-sa temple and S?kkuram grotto
780 AD Kim Yangsang murders King Hyegong and usurps throne as King Sungdok; marks beginning of many palace feuds to follow
818 AD - 830 AD Reign of King Sun of Palhae; height of Palhae power
828 AD Chang Bogo establishes Chonghae fortress (present Wando)
835 AD Major palace coup; Kim Kyun-jong becomes king in one of the bloodiest palace coup in history. He is in turn killed by nephew Chae-yung, who becomes King Hung-dok
846 AD Dismantling of Chonghae fortress; Chang Bogo assassinated.
892 AD Establishment of Later Paekche (Hu-Paekche) by Kyon-hwon.
901 AD Establishment of Later Koguryo (Taebong-guk) by Kung-ye
918 AD Establishment of Koryo by Wang-kon
935 AD End of Shilla
http://everything2.com/e2node/Korean%2520Timeline
Anyway, ignoring all the hocus pocus about having sex with bears and all that, I think a good starting date for Korea would be 57 BC with the founding of the Kingdom of Shilla. So I believe Korea is 2064 years old.
Here is some information on the founding of Shilla:
http://www.clickasia.co.kr/about/m3.htm |
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