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endo

Joined: 14 Mar 2004 Location: Seoul...my home
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 7:34 pm Post subject: Korean Woman + No Father = Dating Waygook? |
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One interesting thing I've noticed with the Korean women I've dated is that many of them either have little or no relations with their father, or that their father is deceased.
For several of my friends who've dated and married Korean women, they've experienced the same thing.
I don't know if this case is just limited to my own experiences, but I feel that there's a good chance that this happens with other guys too.
So are Korean women who have little or no relations with their father, more likely to date/marry foreign men? And if so what is the reason for this?
In addition, for the foreign females who date/marry Korean men, is there some similar example in regardes to the presence or absense of their parents? |
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Return Jones

Joined: 06 Feb 2004 Location: I will see you in far-off places
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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billybrobby wrote: |
Maybe you just date vulnerable women with low self esteem. |
Been there, loved that!  |
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jkelly80

Joined: 13 Jun 2007 Location: you boys like mexico?
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endo

Joined: 14 Mar 2004 Location: Seoul...my home
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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billybrobby wrote: |
Maybe you just date vulnerable women with low self esteem. |
Isn't that a general explanation for all women?
Seriously though, I think when Korean daddy is out of the equasion (a) potential Korean mother/father-in-law will see Korean girl as unfit for their son, and (b) no Korean father to put a stop to his daughter dating a foreign man. |
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pkang0202

Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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Children with Single parents is sort of outcast. For instance, whenever Korean parents meet their son/daughter's boyfriend/girlfriend, the first question asked is "What do your parents do?"
A lot of Korean parents would reject a marriage between their son/daughter with someone who doesn't have both of their parents.
Even if that isn't that case, the perception is definitely there. Koreans know that Westerners don't place so much emphasis on family background. A Korean man/woman knows that when they date a westerner, they don't have to be self conscious about having 1 parent. |
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red_devil

Joined: 30 Jun 2008 Location: Korea
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 9:24 pm Post subject: |
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billybrobby wrote: |
Maybe you just date vulnerable women with low self esteem. |
ROFL. Owned. |
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Guri Guy

Joined: 07 Sep 2003 Location: Bamboo Island
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 9:24 pm Post subject: |
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I have three Canadian/American friends that married South Korean women who had no father.
I always wondered the same thing too and it seems I have drawn the same conclusions.
I figured it was her being less desirable for marriage due to her only having one parent. |
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Countrygirl
Joined: 19 Nov 2007 Location: in the classroom
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 9:26 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, no father-in-law here. I also know other females who have married Korean who don't have a father-in-law.
I think of it like this...no father means more ability to choose who you really want for your partner. But in reality there is less choice in partners because there is less education, less money and less prestige on your side. Korean girls really do use a checklist when they date/marry and love isn't at the top of this list.
Probably Korean girls who have less than desirable backgrounds wouldn't even try to marry into a well-established family. Her whole marriage she would be made to feel not good enough, either by her in-laws or just by her own judgement. That's assuming she dates someone who is strong enough to stand up to his parents. It makes dating/marrying an waegukin seem easy by comparison. |
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pkang0202

Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 9:33 pm Post subject: |
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Countrygirl wrote: |
Korean girls really do use a checklist when they date/marry and love isn't at the top of this list. |
Aye, that is spot on. Love is probably number 6 on the list, after money, willingness to share that money, stability, foreign residence, and sexual performance. I know a couple Korean girls who stopped dating a foreigner when they asked, "How long do you plan to stay in Korea" and they said, "For a long time."
Countrygirl wrote: |
Probably Korean girls who have less than desirable backgrounds wouldn't even try to marry into a well-established family. Her whole marriage she would be made to feel not good enough, either by her in-laws or just by her own judgement. That's assuming she dates someone who is strong enough to stand up to his parents. It makes dating/marrying an waegukin seem easy by comparison. |
Another thing is that Korean girls like the way Westerners treat them. In a Korean relationship, the woman will always be the subservient one. Expected to cook/clean and take care of the children. Also, the woman would be expected to the husband's mother's servant. |
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cdninkorea

Joined: 27 Jan 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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pkang0202 wrote: |
Another thing is that Korean girls like the way Westerners treat them. In a Korean relationship, the woman will always be the subservient one. Expected to cook/clean and take care of the children. Also, the woman would be expected to the husband's mother's servant. |
One of my Australian friends is married to a Korean woman. On the subject of Korean men, she said: "Korean men treat their girlfriends really well; like princesses. Then they get married and it changes." (I'm paraphrasing). |
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endo

Joined: 14 Mar 2004 Location: Seoul...my home
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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cdninkorea wrote: |
pkang0202 wrote: |
Another thing is that Korean girls like the way Westerners treat them. In a Korean relationship, the woman will always be the subservient one. Expected to cook/clean and take care of the children. Also, the woman would be expected to the husband's mother's servant. |
One of my Australian friends is married to a Korean woman. On the subject of Korean men, she said: "Korean men treat their girlfriends really well; like princesses. Then they get married and it changes." (I'm paraphrasing). |
Is that really only a Korean thing? |
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Countrygirl
Joined: 19 Nov 2007 Location: in the classroom
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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endo wrote: |
cdninkorea wrote: |
pkang0202 wrote: |
Another thing is that Korean girls like the way Westerners treat them. In a Korean relationship, the woman will always be the subservient one. Expected to cook/clean and take care of the children. Also, the woman would be expected to the husband's mother's servant. |
One of my Australian friends is married to a Korean woman. On the subject of Korean men, she said: "Korean men treat their girlfriends really well; like princesses. Then they get married and it changes." (I'm paraphrasing). |
Is that really only a Korean thing? |
When my husband treats me like a Korean wife (ie. you should cook more, cook better, do more etc ) I start to act like a Korean wife (ie. you should make more money, you should work harder, you should get a better job etc ). |
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bassexpander
Joined: 13 Sep 2007 Location: Someplace you'd rather be.
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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Korean women like the idea of marrying a foreigner and escaping this society. This becomes infinitely easier after a controlling father is out of the picture, for a number of reasons.
For one, the father will expect that the husband provide a house. A foreigner isn't going to have family backing here to dump 300,000,000 into a house.
Two, there is the plain old racism factor that needs no discussion. Many Korean guys don't like foreigner dating "their" women. A great many fathers like it even less.
Three, a foreigner will likely take the daughter back home to their own country. There goes any chance of getting much money from them when mommy/daddy are old (and believe me -- they will expect it). Of course, they won't get to see their daughter, either.
There are other reasons.... communication, etc.
I suggest you stop with the "they only date waygooks because they are vulnerable" theme, and suggest you start considering the possibility that foreigners are the forbidden fruit that becomes a lot easier to marry once a controlling parent is gone. Also consider the plain fact that a whole lot of Korean women don't like the restrictions placed on them by their own culture. Not many western males return home from the room salons and galbi restaurants at 2am stinking of soju and cheap perfume, claiming they were "working." |
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spliff

Joined: 19 Jan 2004 Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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I wouldn't date let alone marry a girl whose father didn't approve of me. I once dated a girl in the 90's whose father would always take me out alone and we'd get hammered together. He said I was good cause I could out drink him. He said that if I had sex w/ his daughter I'd have to marry her. He would get drunk and say things like "I know you sex two-gay my daughter...when you marry her"? She was an alright girl, and we had sex many times, but hell, I was already married. |
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Faunaki
Joined: 15 Jun 2007
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 10:33 pm Post subject: |
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There's a thread about this exact topic from last year but I can't find it.
Anyway I'm married to a K guy and he has no father so yah I agree with what the OP is saying. |
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