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healed



Joined: 29 Jun 2007

PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 10:42 pm    Post subject: No pay increase for TEFL completion Reply with quote

Not a huge gripe here, just trying to gain some understanding.

I completed a recognized TEFL course last semester. I did get some value from the course but I'm still confused about what good it did financially. (I thought that EPIK teachers would get a $100/mo pay increase for completing it.)

I'm now a Level 2, up from Level 3, but without the course I would have moved up a level anyway just by virtue of having a Bachelor's degree and one year's experience. My new salary is at the bottom of the Level 2 range. As I see it I make the exact same salary that I would have made without the course. Anyone have any experience in this area?
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nobbyken



Joined: 07 Jun 2006
Location: Yongin ^^

PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 10:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GEPIK here, though may be similar.
I can't recall the payscales right now, but I was advised to do a course to increase my first year pay prior to starting.
A 100-hour course (completed during my first month) put me from 2.0 onto 2.1 for 11 months of my first year.
This year I changed school, so I didn't get the 'non-compulsary' monthly increase of 100K. Still on 2.1, but I believe that next year I should go onto 2.3 because Gepik recognize 2 years experience.

Sorry no help on EPIK is it?
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bogey666



Joined: 17 Mar 2008
Location: Korea, the ass free zone

PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 2:43 am    Post subject: Re: No pay increase for TEFL completion Reply with quote

OP perhaps the reason is that under GEPIK you can only go up in salary one level per year..

ergo... from 2.0, Bachelor's Degree level... the next year you will go up to 2.1 because you have a year's experience.

should you do a TEFL in that initial year, it won't help you financially.

Essentially, it only really helps you if you come in initially with it... you start at 2.1. rather than 2.0
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 3:48 am    Post subject: Re: No pay increase for TEFL completion Reply with quote

healed wrote:
Not a huge gripe here, just trying to gain some understanding.

I completed a recognized TEFL course last semester. I did get some value from the course but I'm still confused about what good it did financially. (I thought that EPIK teachers would get a $100/mo pay increase for completing it.)

I'm now a Level 2, up from Level 3, but without the course I would have moved up a level anyway just by virtue of having a Bachelor's degree and one year's experience. My new salary is at the bottom of the Level 2 range. As I see it I make the exact same salary that I would have made without the course. Anyone have any experience in this area?


9. 계약기간 중 석사학위 나 100 시간 이상의 TESOL 등의 자격증을 취득한 경우, 등급 상향이 취득 다음달부터 적용될 수 있으나 상향등급은 한 등급으로 제한한다.

9. If Employee obtains further qualifications such as a Masters degree or TESOL certificate (with over 100 course-hours) during the contract term, if applicable, he/she will be promoted to the next employment category (with corresponding raise in salary) the month following the date of course completion. However, promotions shall be limited to one pay category increase per year. (ie. Category 3 to 2, or Category 2 to 1; not Category 3 to 1)

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rayjoy



Joined: 19 Jan 2008
Location: Dynamic Busan

PostPosted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 9:09 pm    Post subject: Re: No pay increase for TEFL completion Reply with quote

ttompatz wrote:
healed wrote:
Not a huge gripe here, just trying to gain some understanding.

I completed a recognized TEFL course last semester. I did get some value from the course but I'm still confused about what good it did financially. (I thought that EPIK teachers would get a $100/mo pay increase for completing it.)

I'm now a Level 2, up from Level 3, but without the course I would have moved up a level anyway just by virtue of having a Bachelor's degree and one year's experience. My new salary is at the bottom of the Level 2 range. As I see it I make the exact same salary that I would have made without the course. Anyone have any experience in this area?


9. 계약기간 중 석사학위 나 100 시간 이상의 TESOL 등의 자격증을 취득한 경우, 등급 상향이 취득 다음달부터 적용될 수 있으나 상향등급은 한 등급으로 제한한다.

9. If Employee obtains further qualifications such as a Masters degree or TESOL certificate (with over 100 course-hours) during the contract term, if applicable, he/she will be promoted to the next employment category (with corresponding raise in salary) the month following the date of course completion. However, promotions shall be limited to one pay category increase per year. (ie. Category 3 to 2, or Category 2 to 1; not Category 3 to 1)

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TTompatz, where did you pull this contract statement from? I just started with EPIK a couple of weeks ago and this is not in my contract.

I would love a raise! I found out from other EPIK folks that their recruiters encouraged them to do a 100-hour certificate and now they are making an extra 200,000/mo. Does anyone have experience working for EPIK and getting a raise mid-contract? Who do I contact about this? My co-teacher? My EPIK regional office contact person? I don't want to start it if it won't go into effect until the next contract, as I'm not sure if I'll stick around but if I could finish by the end of the year, that's an extra 800k-1600k to play around with.
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schwa



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Yap

PostPosted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Likely depends on your province.

Gangwondo doesnt offer mid-contract level adjustments.
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bassexpander



Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Location: Someplace you'd rather be.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 3:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We've had that issue come up in the past 2 podcasts on www.themidnightrunner.com . Tob55, who has KEI-TEFL and a gov't approved online MA/Ph.D school in Korea, brought it up near the end of the F-5-9 podcast. I also heard the same from Bittitybob on the public school/univ. podcast. By the way, bitty... over 100 downloads in the first 36 hours of your podcast. Not bad.
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bacasper



Joined: 26 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 5:26 am    Post subject: Re: No pay increase for TEFL completion Reply with quote

ttompatz wrote:
healed wrote:
Not a huge gripe here, just trying to gain some understanding.

I completed a recognized TEFL course last semester. I did get some value from the course but I'm still confused about what good it did financially. (I thought that EPIK teachers would get a $100/mo pay increase for completing it.)

I'm now a Level 2, up from Level 3, but without the course I would have moved up a level anyway just by virtue of having a Bachelor's degree and one year's experience. My new salary is at the bottom of the Level 2 range. As I see it I make the exact same salary that I would have made without the course. Anyone have any experience in this area?


9. 계약기간 중 석사학위 나 100 시간 이상의 TESOL 등의 자격증을 취득한 경우, 등급 상향이 취득 다음달부터 적용될 수 있으나 상향등급은 한 등급으로 제한한다.

9. If Employee obtains further qualifications such as a Masters degree or TESOL certificate (with over 100 course-hours) during the contract term, if applicable, he/she will be promoted to the next employment category (with corresponding raise in salary) the month following the date of course completion. However, promotions shall be limited to one pay category increase per year. (ie. Category 3 to 2, or Category 2 to 1; not Category 3 to 1)

.

And if you are already at Level 1 when you complete your TESOL, you'll get no increase either.
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adventure pidgey



Joined: 26 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 7:54 am    Post subject: