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Darn, YouTube took down ddeubel's edutaining videos
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sojourner1



Joined: 17 Apr 2007
Location: Where meggi swim and 2 wheeled tractors go sput put chug alugg pug pug

PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 4:02 am    Post subject: Darn, YouTube took down ddeubel's edutaining videos Reply with quote

This is sort of a rant. ddeubel is one of our highly valued members who contributes materials and ideas he's amassed during his/her teaching experience. I really enjoyed his/her video's on Youtube, but they removed them and suspended his/her account. WTF?

We need more children's material made available. Like ddeubel, I had thought it was public domain unless it was newer than 7 years old in which case you'd have to buy it at a music or book store in America. Ddeubel's vids were the classic stuff that is well proven to be effective in edutaining children like London Bridge and Row Row. These are great supplementary materials. I'd like to find Miss Mary Mack material. Being overseas in Korea, we have no great stores to shop for English related children's materials so I, like most of you, depend on the downloading off the internet.

Thank you Dduebel for your contributions. Maybe an ESL resources site that the US couldn't touch would be great. It can't hurt to give kids on the other side of the world where there's none of this stuff available a taste of classic American children's edutainment.
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pkang0202



Joined: 09 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 6:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A lot of youtube clones out there.

Its too bad because Ddeubel probably spent a LONG LONG time trying to upload those videos, making tags, descriptions, etc...
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bassexpander



Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Location: Someplace you'd rather be.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 6:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why? Did they contain copyrighted music or material?

That's too bad.

I'm in the process of backing up my podcasts, because I have a feeling that the hosters of the site could go away at any time. They don't seem to show any interest in providing help or service to newbees in the forums there.
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Bibbitybop



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 6:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bassexpander wrote:
Why? Did they contain copyrighted music or material?



Tons of it.
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Seon-bee



Joined: 24 Jan 2003
Location: ROK

PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's unfortunate when a caring, passionate teacher becomes the poster child for copyright infringement. The law's the law. Nothing to be proud of there. If they were your videos, books, and music that were posted online, I'm sure you'd feel cheated and violated.

It's all fun and games until your caught with your pants down. Probably downloads tons of illegal mp3s and movies. Unfortunately, it sounds like he could be jeopardizing his visa status by engaging in criminal acts of this magnitude.

Why bother expect students to come to class or do their own work without cheating / plagerizing, etc. Same same.

Robin Hood or Cheap Skate?
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Bibbitybop



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 9:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seon-bee wrote:
It's unfortunate when a caring, passionate teacher becomes the poster child for copyright infringement. The law's the law. Nothing to be proud of there. If they were your videos, books, and music that were posted online, I'm sure you'd feel cheated and violated.

It's all fun and games until your caught with your pants down. Probably downloads tons of illegal mp3s and movies. Unfortunately, it sounds like he could be jeopardizing his visa status by engaging in criminal acts of this magnitude.

Why bother expect students to come to class or do their own work without cheating / plagerizing, etc. Same same.

Robin Hood or Cheap Skate?


Thanks for the laugh, Seon-bee.
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seon-bee wrote:
It's unfortunate when a caring, passionate teacher becomes the poster child for copyright infringement. The law's the law. Nothing to be proud of there. If they were your videos, books, and music that were posted online, I'm sure you'd feel cheated and violated.

It's all fun and games until your caught with your pants down. Probably downloads tons of illegal mp3s and movies. Unfortunately, it sounds like he could be jeopardizing his visa status by engaging in criminal acts of this magnitude.

Why bother expect students to come to class or do their own work without cheating / plagerizing, etc. Same same.

Robin Hood or Cheap Skate?


I'm sure Korea's the very last place you're ever going to get penalised for violating copyright. I've posted some stuff on-line and as far as I'm concerned, if you want to copy it, please do. I figure that if I'm willing to provide what I've worked on for free, I feel free to take. Considering DD's put 100X what almost anyone else has on-line for free I'm sure he doesn't have to feel guilty stealing a bit of other stuff. When I buy textbooks one thing I consider is how well it will photocopy.
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Easter Clark



Joined: 18 Nov 2007
Location: Hiding from Yie Eun-woong

PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Absolutely. I really do think education should have free reign when it comes to usage. As long as no one is profiting, where's the harm? It's one thing if the students can afford the textbook (as in a university setting), but quite another if your school doesn't have the budget for books, or if you're in a poor area with limited to no resources.
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ddeubel



Joined: 20 Jul 2005

PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I only have a moment, must be brief (using my phone and can't typewell, my wrists hurt).

They came and got me this morning. Now I know how the samizdat guys felt back in the cold days. As soon as I figure out how to get broadband and a desktop from this jail - I'll reply at length.

I'm sure all the self-righteous types will crawl out of their holes. Such is the way of life.....

Everything is still available on karaoke. Download the player http://eflclassroom.com/software/karafun.exe then, get the songs on EFL Classroom 2.0

Got to go - I'm being screamed at.

DD

PS. Blame Bruce Hornsby!!!!
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tefain



Joined: 19 Sep 2007
Location: Not too far out there

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