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uberscheisse
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Location: japan is better than korea.
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 Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 10:46 pm Post subject: the band HEART destroy john mccain. |
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i'm sorry, i didn't paste the correct URL for fear of the swear filter. replace the asterisk with exactly what you think should be there and you'll get it.
http://www.cbsundstrom.com/f*ckyoujohnmccain.jpg |
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Bibbitybop
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| Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 10:59 pm Post subject: |
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I studied political campaigns, ads and music in grad school. I was interested in the type of music used in ads and at rallies other than the campaign theme songs. Unfortunately, most research is only about the campaign theme songs.
I'm reminded of Bruce Springsteing's Born in the USA being used by Reagan. Bruce said Reagan obviously didn't know what the songs or lyrics meant, or a Repub. wouldn't be using it. |
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Gopher
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| Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 11:27 pm Post subject: |
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Uberscheisse: how do you know this document is authentic?
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| ...Reagan obviously didn't know what the...lyrics meant, or a Repub. wouldn't be using it. |
Sounds like a political virgin, then. Why would the reelect-R. Reagan campaign exploit an immensely popular song that hit the charts from summer through fall 1984? Meanwhile, W. Mondale and G. Ferraro were promising to raise taxes upon election... |
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VanIslander
Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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| Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 11:54 pm Post subject: |
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There's no need to swear incessantly when a politician uses your copyrighted music without your approval. You're in America. Just sue him.
And as for the publishing of that letter,...
If the link gets a million hits then the letter is "real" enough isn't it? |
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uberscheisse
Joined: 02 Dec 2003
Location: japan is better than korea.
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| Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 12:38 am Post subject: |
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| VanIslander wrote: |
There's no need to swear incessantly when a politician uses your copyrighted music without your approval. You're in America. Just sue him.
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are rock stars to be held up to the same standards as politicians? |
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VanIslander
Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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| Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 12:42 am Post subject: |
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| uberscheisse wrote: |
| VanIslander wrote: |
There's no need to swear incessantly when a politician uses your copyrighted music without your approval. You're in America. Just sue him.
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are rock stars to be held up to the same standards as politicians? |
of course not, silly,... there's just no need to swear so much in a letter
they are artists, no,... write a *beep* song, do a *beep* music video commentary
seriously |
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Bibbitybop
Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 1:33 am Post subject: |
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| Gopher wrote: |
Uberscheisse: how do you know this document is authentic?
| Bibbitybop wrote: |
| ...Reagan obviously didn't know what the...lyrics meant, or a Repub. wouldn't be using it. |
Sounds like a political virgin, then. Why would the reelect-R. Reagan campaign exploit an immensely popular song that hit the charts from summer through fall 1984? Meanwhile, W. Mondale and G. Ferraro were promising to raise taxes upon election... |
I'd have to look it up, but WHO were they raising taxes on and what benefits would come from it? |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 1:47 am Post subject: |
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| Give me a break. I will not argue the 1984 election. The Dems campaigned on raising taxes. We associate that with their loss that year. No debate on this, really. But here we debate everything, from the Moon landings to 9/11. So have your day. |
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uberscheisse
Joined: 02 Dec 2003
Location: japan is better than korea.
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| Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 1:54 am Post subject: |
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| VanIslander wrote: |
| uberscheisse wrote: |
| VanIslander wrote: |
There's no need to swear incessantly when a politician uses your copyrighted music without your approval. You're in America. Just sue him.
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are rock stars to be held up to the same standards as politicians? |
of course not, silly,... there's just no need to swear so much in a letter
they are artists, no,... write a *beep* song, do a *beep* music video commentary
seriously |
considering that mccain has a penchant for calling his own wife a c*nt, i'd say that the presentation is appropriate. |
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Pink Freud
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| Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 2:02 am Post subject: |
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| Hilarious! |
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Bibbitybop
Joined: 22 Feb 2006
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| Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 2:36 am Post subject: |
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| Gopher wrote: |
| Give me a break. I will not argue the 1984 election. The Dems campaigned on raising taxes. We associate that with their loss that year. No debate on this, really. But here we debate everything, from the Moon landings to 9/11. So have your day. |
Didn't ask for a debate or argument, just implying that poor and middle class American voters didn't know what was beneficial to them in 1984. Or today. |
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Tiberious aka Sparkles
Joined: 23 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 2:48 am Post subject: |
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| VanIslander wrote: |
| uberscheisse wrote: |
| VanIslander wrote: |
There's no need to swear incessantly when a politician uses your copyrighted music without your approval. You're in America. Just sue him.
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are rock stars to be held up to the same standards as politicians? |
of course not, silly,... there's just no need to swear so much in a letter
they are artists... |
Heart? Artists?
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VanIslander
Joined: 18 Aug 2003
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Heart? Artists?
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Now that's just plain ignorance of the role of the Wilson sisters in the Seattle music scene.
R.E.M., Pearl Jam, Alice in Chains, Soundgarden and Candlebox all have cited Heart as an influence on their musical development.
Yes, artists! folk musicians fused with rock to produce original tunes. |
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SHANE02
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That was funny.....demerol epidural  |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 3:29 am Post subject: |
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| Bibbitybop wrote: |
| Gopher wrote: |
| Give me a break. I will not argue the 1984 election. The Dems campaigned on raising taxes. We associate that with their loss that year. No debate on this, really. But here we debate everything, from the Moon landings to 9/11. So have your day. |
Didn't ask for a debate or argument, just implying that poor and middle class American voters didn't know what was beneficial to them in 1984. Or today. |
Very well. So you stand above them and can judge their behavior. Congratulations.
While we are judging people, however, how about the wisdom of campaigning on a promise to raise taxes? Or resorting to crude and transparent scare tactics like this ad, which seems to have played off of several films and television mini-series.
And where is it...?
Right. I was also looking for this.
So "the people" failed to behave in a way that might have warranted your approval in 1984? No. the problem is that the Democrats failed to offer a better alternative to the Reagan Administration. As far as "today" goes, "today" is far from over. Let us see what happens in November. |
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