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Ukon
Joined: 29 Jan 2008
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Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 7:15 pm Post subject: Starting an afterschool program at my school |
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As the first native teacher my school has had, I'd naturally be open to doing the after school classes which they've never done before(i believe anyway).
Anyone have any advice or previous experience being the first to start a program....
Also, what about pay....my coteacher mentioned it was the standard $20 extra an hour and would count as overtime....however I've heard of a few people getting paid more than that or they received a cut of the profits from the program. Is everyone just getting the bare minimum $20 an hour or is there a way to get more? |
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oskinny1

Joined: 10 Nov 2006 Location: Right behind you!
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Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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I taught an after school class for 1 hour a day for a month. I got the standard 20,000 won and it was strictly voluntary on my part. It wasn't overtime for me and I wasn't going to push it since I only taught 17 hours a week as it was. [/i] |
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ttompatz

Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 7:21 pm Post subject: Re: Starting an afterschool program at my school |
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Ukon wrote: |
As the first native teacher my school has had, I'd naturally be open to doing the after school classes which they've never done before(i believe anyway).
Anyone have any advice or previous experience being the first to start a program....
Also, what about pay....my coteacher mentioned it was the standard $20 extra an hour and would count as overtime....however I've heard of a few people getting paid more than that or they received a cut of the profits from the program. Is everyone just getting the bare minimum $20 an hour or is there a way to get more? |
It's not "overtime" as we think of it.
You are supposed to get a supplemental pay of 20k won per class (usually 40 minutes long for elementary - assuming it happens within your 8:30-4:30 workday). If you are working high school and doing 50 minute classes you can ask for 25k per class.
AFTER / outside of your regular school hours (8:30-4:30) it is negotiable and you can feel free to say no or negotiate other terms (but get it in writing).
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Ukon
Joined: 29 Jan 2008
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Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, I mean within 4:30. |
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spliff

Joined: 19 Jan 2004 Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand
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Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 7:44 pm Post subject: |
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I get 64,000 per student. I have about 40 and counting. |
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Yu_Bum_suk

Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 8:11 pm Post subject: |
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It's not a great salary but you might still get paid even if many lessons are cancelled - that could boost it closer to 30,000 with enough cancellations.
Just remember that these kids will be tired. They're at the end of phase one of yet another crappy day in their crappy lives and even the good ones often won't be very alert. Make it clear that they have to do some real work, but try to make your class something for them to look forward to, as well. |
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KYC
Joined: 11 May 2006
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Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 10:35 pm Post subject: |
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first native as well. It was optional and i'll still be finished by 3 o'clock so I said yes. 20k per class. 2 classes. If it's after 430, negotiate for higher pay. |
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spliff

Joined: 19 Jan 2004 Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand
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Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 12:07 am Post subject: |
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Mine are all before 4:30. It's great, double income and out at reg time. |
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Draz

Joined: 27 Jun 2007 Location: Land of Morning Clam
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Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 12:10 am Post subject: |
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Mine were canceled constantly and it was a pain because if it was canceled, it would just have to be taught at a different time. It took forever to finish a cycle and get paid for it. |
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mick
Joined: 04 Mar 2005
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Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 1:03 am Post subject: |
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For those doing after school programs. How long does each class last? My school mentioned it last semester and then never came back to me about it. At the time they did say that each class would last 1 1/2 hrs which i remember thinking was too long for both the teacher and students. I think 40 mins to 1 hour is ideal. |
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sojourner1

Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Location: Where meggi swim and 2 wheeled tractors go sput put chug alugg pug pug
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Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 1:20 am Post subject: |
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I just started mine. Mine are 50 long minutes for 30,000 won. The problem with these late afternoon classes is students want to leave instead of being at school so they don't listen like they do in regular school classes. I'm having difficulty with them refusing to take off their backpack and stay a while as well as anarchy. Even with a Korean teacher present, they won't listen and just talk and go nutz. They climb around on everything and won't listen to anyone or anything. They won't even watch a video or sing a song that they normally would like. They just want to leave school.
What in the world do you do with an after school class? |
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KYC
Joined: 11 May 2006
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Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 1:50 am Post subject: |
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mick wrote: |
For those doing after school programs. How long does each class last? My school mentioned it last semester and then never came back to me about it. At the time they did say that each class would last 1 1/2 hrs which i remember thinking was too long for both the teacher and students. I think 40 mins to 1 hour is ideal. |
2 are 50 mins and the other are 40 After 30 mins the kids are itching out of their seats. |
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yingwenlaoshi

Joined: 12 Feb 2007 Location: ... location, location!
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Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 3:44 am Post subject: |
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sojourner1 wrote: |
I just started mine. Mine are 50 long minutes for 30,000 won. The problem with these late afternoon classes is students want to leave instead of being at school so they don't listen like they do in regular school classes. I'm having difficulty with them refusing to take off their backpack and stay a while as well as anarchy. Even with a Korean teacher present, they won't listen and just talk and go nutz. They climb around on everything and won't listen to anyone or anything. They won't even watch a video or sing a song that they normally would like. They just want to leave school.
What in the world do you do with an after school class? |
You get paid. That's what you do. |
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Fishead soup
Joined: 24 Jun 2007 Location: Korea
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Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 3:57 pm Post subject: |
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The Name game- have one students say" Mu name is_________
The next student says His name is_____ My Name is____
Show a Lost DVD with subtitles.
Make them sing Westlife " My Love".
Have them play find someone Who
Use some of the free PPT games that are constantely being offered on this site.
Have the students make a maze with the desks. Blindfold someone and have them direct him arround it.
Make a treasure hunt with memo cards.
Buy a Janga game and write basic questions on each block. Get them to ask and answer questions and removing the blocks until the tower falls down. |
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gangpae
Joined: 03 Sep 2007 Location: Busan
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Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 4:10 pm Post subject: |
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spliff wrote: |
I get 64,000 per student. I have about 40 and counting. |
Spliff works in Zimbabwe. |
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