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Ya-ta Boy · Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994

The debate is over for today--well, it will be in a couple of minutes.

Who won?

Ya-ta Boy · Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994

I think both did very well in general. Neither one fell down and slobbered. Neither made a major gaffe, or even really a small one.

I think Obama 'won' because:

a) Obama was articulate
b) He came across as a master of details as well as the general view
c) He was aggressive in defending himself.

d) Maybe most of all, I feel more comfortable with him than I did before. It's just a gut thing, but he came across as reasonable, intelligent and like he could serve as a good president.

Captain Corea · Joined: 28 Feb 2005 Location: Seoul

I'm not a fan of McCain's substance, but I feel Obama (from the parts that I saw) didn't hit back hard enough for McCain's repeated 'What Obama doesn't understand' comments.

A phrase like that, repeated enough times and not countered, is far too damaging.

Gopher · Joined: 04 Jun 2005

Ya-ta Boy · Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994

McCain did better than I expected he would, after his performance of the past week. He was aggressive. But I didn't think any of his attacks worked. I felt Obama hit back adequately and defended himself fairly.

I saw McCain as dealing with little details rather than the over-arching view. I could see him as being very effective in the Senate fighting for Obama's policies. I can't see him setting the policies.

mises · Joined: 05 Nov 2007 Location: retired

Gopher · Joined: 04 Jun 2005

Show me where I said "McCain won."

As far as B. Obama's performance goes, he presents very well. Always has. I remain worried about him as a serious threat to J. McCain. We really have no idea how this election will end up.

Ya-ta Boy · Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994

VanIslander · Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 6:54 pm Post subject:

Surprisingly it was a TIE I'd say

I expected McCain to look bad on domestic economic issues and he held his own! But at the same time I expected him to score more points on foreign military issues and he really didn't gain much there

I actually thought McCain looked better/Obama looked worse att times when McCain took shots at Obama. EXPECT MORE ATTACKS FROM MCCAIN IN FUTURE DEBATES.

I thought Obama came out of the gate looking strongest, as the early part was quite formal and his articulate presidential disposition was evident.; It almost felt like Obama was an incumbent seeking a second term Laughing

strong start

Gopher · Joined: 04 Jun 2005

No, no, no, Ya-ta Boy. That is not the meaning of "check the polling data." Has nothing at all to do with "talking heads." One way to evaluate who won the debate tonight is to see how it impacted the voters, especially the undecideds, after tomorrow.

Is that idea truly too difficult for you to follow?

mises · Joined: 05 Nov 2007 Location: retired

mises · Joined: 05 Nov 2007 Location: retired

Sorry, three. I guess Leslie Cheswick is bummin around.

Ya-ta Boy · Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994

Gopher · Joined: 04 Jun 2005

mises · Joined: 05 Nov 2007 Location: retired

Maybe. But when Mac called him naive again and again without an aggressive retort I felt like Obama was being too polite. Naive? Who was balls-deep in the "lets invade Iraq" hysteria? Has Mac ever met a war he didn't like? (The answer is NO.).