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mindmetoo



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 2:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
bacasper wrote:

How about the JOURNAL OF INDEPENDENT MEDICAL RESEARCH? Do you deny they are peer reviewed?

From Is HIV a virus-like form of acid-fast Tuberculosis-type bacteria? in the March 4, 2008 issue:

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Other "dissident" scientists, headed by molecular biologist and virologist Peter Duesberg, claim that HIV is not the cause of AIDS, and that the so-called AIDS retrovirus has not been isolated in its "pure state."


That journal's page does not at all describe a proper peer review process. Sorry. Peer review is not like leaving comments on a book at amazon.com. And that paper offers no original research. It's just a series of suppositions. Not really science. Sorry.
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bacasper



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 7:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
mindmetoo wrote:
bacasper wrote:

How about the JOURNAL OF INDEPENDENT MEDICAL RESEARCH? Do you deny they are peer reviewed?

From Is HIV a virus-like form of acid-fast Tuberculosis-type bacteria? in the March 4, 2008 issue:

Quote:
Other "dissident" scientists, headed by molecular biologist and virologist Peter Duesberg, claim that HIV is not the cause of AIDS, and that the so-called AIDS retrovirus has not been isolated in its "pure state."


That journal's page does not at all describe a proper peer review process. Sorry. Peer review is not like leaving comments on a book at amazon.com. And that paper offers no original research. It's just a series of suppositions. Not really science. Sorry.

All peer review is not the same. It seems to me that this

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PubMed requires two Formal Peer-Reviewers who:

are active or retired academic staff members of an accredited tertiary institution, who have exercised direct research and curriculum responsibilities, or

are active or retired professionals who are credited as authors of at least two papers which have been indexed in MEDLINE (PubMed)

A peer-reviewer is expected to have expertise in the discipline of medicine canvassed by the paper, or to declare areas of weakness in the "conflict-of-interest" section of the peer-review.

is an acceptable peer review process. What about it does not satisfy you?
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mindmetoo



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 2:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
bacasper wrote:
mindmetoo wrote:
bacasper wrote:

How about the JOURNAL OF INDEPENDENT MEDICAL RESEARCH? Do you deny they are peer reviewed?

From Is HIV a virus-like form of acid-fast Tuberculosis-type bacteria? in the March 4, 2008 issue:

Quote:
Other "dissident" scientists, headed by molecular biologist and virologist Peter Duesberg, claim that HIV is not the cause of AIDS, and that the so-called AIDS retrovirus has not been isolated in its "pure state."


That journal's page does not at all describe a proper peer review process. Sorry. Peer review is not like leaving comments on a book at amazon.com. And that paper offers no original research. It's just a series of suppositions. Not really science. Sorry.

All peer review is not the same. It seems to me that this

Quote:
PubMed requires two Formal Peer-Reviewers who:

are active or retired academic staff members of an accredited tertiary institution, who have exercised direct research and curriculum responsibilities, or

are active or retired professionals who are credited as authors of at least two papers which have been indexed in MEDLINE (PubMed)

A peer-reviewer is expected to have expertise in the discipline of medicine canvassed by the paper, or to declare areas of weakness in the "conflict-of-interest" section of the peer-review.

is an acceptable peer review process. What about it does not satisfy you?



You're confused. The page above simply describes pubmed's goal post for peer review. This does not mean the journal matches that. This journal's idea of peer review is like leaving comments on amazon.com.

http://sci.tech-archive.net/Archive/sci.med.diseases.lyme/2005-08/msg01695.html

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None of the publications made in this online journal have ever been accepted for publication to the officially recognised PubMed database.
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bacasper



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 4:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
mindmetoo wrote:
bacasper wrote:
mindmetoo wrote:
bacasper wrote:

How about the JOURNAL OF INDEPENDENT MEDICAL RESEARCH? Do you deny they are peer reviewed?

From Is HIV a virus-like form of acid-fast Tuberculosis-type bacteria? in the March 4, 2008 issue:

Quote:
Other "dissident" scientists, headed by molecular biologist and virologist Peter Duesberg, claim that HIV is not the cause of AIDS, and that the so-called AIDS retrovirus has not been isolated in its "pure state."


That journal's page does not at all describe a proper peer review process. Sorry. Peer review is not like leaving comments on a book at amazon.com. And that paper offers no original research. It's just a series of suppositions. Not really science. Sorry.

All peer review is not the same. It seems to me that this

Quote:
PubMed requires two Formal Peer-Reviewers who:

are active or retired academic staff members of an accredited tertiary institution, who have exercised direct research and curriculum responsibilities, or

are active or retired professionals who are credited as authors of at least two papers which have been indexed in MEDLINE (PubMed)

A peer-reviewer is expected to have expertise in the discipline of medicine canvassed by the paper, or to declare areas of weakness in the "conflict-of-interest" section of the peer-review.

is an acceptable peer review process. What about it does not satisfy you?



You're confused. The page above simply describes pubmed's goal post for peer review. This does not mean the journal matches that. This journal's idea of peer review is like leaving comments on amazon.com.

http://sci.tech-archive.net/Archive/sci.med.diseases.lyme/2005-08/msg01695.html

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None of the publications made in this online journal have ever been accepted for publication to the officially recognised PubMed database.

That last quote is from someone's blog!

You are the one who is confused. You are confusing informal with formal peer review.

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PubMed requires two Formal Peer-Reviewers who:

are active or retired academic staff members of an accredited tertiary institution, who have exercised direct research and curriculum responsibilities, or

are active or retired professionals who are credited as authors of at least two papers which have been indexed in MEDLINE (PubMed)
A peer-reviewer is expected to have expertise in the discipline of medicine canvassed by the paper, or to declare areas of weakness in the "conflict-of-interest" section of the peer-review.

bold is mine

Furthermore, the JOIMR adheres to the Uniform Requirements for Manuscripts Submitted to Biomedical Journals of the International Committee of Medical Journal Editors including those for peer review.

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The number and kind of manuscripts sent for review, the number of reviewers, the reviewing procedures, and the use made of the reviewers� opinions may vary.
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mindmetoo



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 1:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
bacasper wrote:

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The number and kind of manuscripts sent for review, the number of reviewers, the reviewing procedures, and the use made of the reviewers� opinions may vary.


You can settle the matter by going to pubmed.com and finding one citation of this journal in pubmed. Sorry, its peer review method is one not recognized by legit journals. It amounts to people posting reviews on amazon.com.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 7:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
"Direct evidence of extensive diversity of HIV-1 in Kinshasa by 1960"

http://scienceblogs.com/erv/2008/10/paleovirology.php
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v455/n7213/abs/nature07390.html
http://www.nature.com/news/2008/081001/full/news.2008.1143.html

HIV: not manufactured by big pharma in the 1970s.

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Using a database of HIV-1 sequences and an estimate of the rate at which these sequences change over time, the researchers modelled when HIV-1 first surfaced. Their results showed that the most likely date for HIV's emergence was about 1908, when L�opoldville was emerging as a centre for trade.


Yeah yeah one of those crazy papers where they actually claim they've sequenced a virus that some radiation tech in Perth claims has never been isolated. Odd that.
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