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eurasian76



Joined: 09 May 2006

PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 11:30 pm    Post subject: YBM and salaries Reply with quote

I have almost a years ESL teaching experience in another country and currently considering YBM - not the franchises

I have seen the salaries being advertised as varying from 2.0 - 2.4

For someone with a years experience what could I typically `demand` in terms of salary? 2.3 pushing it? bearing in mind the rising costs?

Is 2.1 still the average?

I have done a search which brought me onto the issue of YBM but not much in terms of salaries.

Appreciate any replies from current YBM teachers in regards to conditions......also how are YBM and negotiating contracts? I read on another thread that Danny Kim is quite anal about that but that thread was a few years old
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soviet_man



Joined: 23 Apr 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 10:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In 2005 for newbies fresh off the boat, YBM ECC was paying was 1.8.

It seems to go up roughly 0.1 million each year.

So for 2009 lets say 2.2 will be their base rate.

I would say absolutely hold out for it.
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Mandinga



Joined: 12 Oct 2008
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What schools are you considering? From the few convos I've had with DK I would assume he would be anal.
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marisha



Joined: 11 Oct 2008
Location: orange county, CA USA

PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i've been offered a job with YBM ECC and the min is 2.0
they say that's the normal starting rate
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Mandinga



Joined: 12 Oct 2008
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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i've been offered a job with YBM ECC and the min is 2.0


2.0 is what they give non experienced teachers, which location did they offer you? I'm also considering a job with YBM.


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marisha



Joined: 11 Oct 2008
Location: orange county, CA USA

PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

he said i'd get something near kangnam. he sounded a little scarey on the phone actually...not as friendly as some of the other schools i've interviewed with but whatever. i'm also considering pagoda but i would have to take care of my own housing
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Mandinga



Joined: 12 Oct 2008
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, DK is definitely not the best at being tactful. But I think that's just his personality.
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eurasian76



Joined: 09 May 2006

PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mandinga wrote:
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i've been offered a job with YBM ECC and the min is 2.0


2.0 is what they give non experienced teachers.


I would have thought 2.0 is still pretty low even for a newbie. I am considering them though only because they seem one of the better hagwons out there and actually seem to pay on time judging by previous searches

PS: When you apply, do you need to provide any sort of proof of employment? I worked in Japan previously at a small academy but might have a bit of trouble getting that but can get at a push I guess.
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linton



Joined: 20 Jun 2006
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

With the fall of the Korean won, why would anyone take a job for 2.0?
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marisha



Joined: 11 Oct 2008
Location: orange county, CA USA

PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

linton wrote:
Hi,

With the fall of the Korean won, why would anyone take a job for 2.0?


b/c making the same thing in orange county eats your soul and the cost of living is crazier. i'm a banker for Wells Fargo and I only take home about 2k a month and spend around 1200 on bills leaving me with NO savings and very little to live on.
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linton



Joined: 20 Jun 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess what I am saying is that I really don't think that a 2.0 job is any good at all now. I, for one, think I would take a job in CHina before I would take a 2.0 job. Right now people should demand more than the very bottom pay scale. This is only IMO.
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DeLaRed



Joined: 16 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mandinga wrote:
Yeah, DK is definitely not the best at being tactful. But I think that's just his personality.


did he take long to reply to emails/applications? I applied about 2 days ago but haven`t heard from him yet
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marisha



Joined: 11 Oct 2008
Location: orange county, CA USA

PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DeLaRed wrote:
Mandinga wrote:
Yeah, DK is definitely not the best at being tactful. But I think that's just his personality.


did he take long to reply to emails/applications? I applied about 2 days ago but haven`t heard from him yet


ya it took him like a week to get back to me
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Mandinga



Joined: 12 Oct 2008
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 7:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

linton wrote:
I guess what I am saying is that I really don't think that a 2.0 job is any good at all now.


So what are most newbs getting offered that would be good enough? I got one for 2.3 but no pension, so passed. What is a realistic salary?
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Teelo



Joined: 09 Oct 2008
Location: Wellington, NZ

PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I considered them, but... too many hours working.
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