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mises



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 6:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hate the game, not the player? huh
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 6:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hate is such an ugly word.
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mises



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 6:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

1999.. That's quite a long time ago.
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asylum seeker



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote:
VanIslander wrote:
Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote:
The US isn't even in recession. Financals are down and out but the rest of the economy isn't.

the fundamentals are strong eh joo rip


Get oil down and the US economy will easily , easily take care of the rest. No question about it.

Get oil down to 40 $ and the housing crisis is a joke that will be over in a couple of weeks.

Get oil down and the fundamentals are VERY strong.

40$ oil means the Dow is 17,000 and the Nasdaq 5000.

Miracle Cure All.


I agree that energy is the most fundamental issue long-term. Opec has stated that they will cut production by as much as necessary to keep oil at over 70$ at least. They're not going to allow prices to go back down ever again. Drilling in Alaska will not be enough. Western governments need to start investing huge amounts of money in wind and solar energy and creating infrastructure to support plug-in hybrids and increase public transport. McCain/Palin really don't seem to grasp the necessity of this.
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ontheway



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oil is not the problem or the answer.


Oil has fallen to $68 today. The dow has fallen below 8700 today.
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee



Joined: 25 May 2003

PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ontheway wrote:
Oil is not the problem or the answer.


Oil has fallen to $68 today. The dow has fallen below 8700 today.




68 is still a high price for oil. It is 300% higher than it was 5 years ago.

6 x what it was 10 years ago.

If oil is 30 -40 dollars a barrel see what happens.

30 -40 dollars a barrel oil would also wipe out Iran and Venezuala and would take Russia down as a bonus.
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

asylum seeker wrote:
Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote:
VanIslander wrote:
Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote:
The US isn't even in recession. Financals are down and out but the rest of the economy isn't.

the fundamentals are strong eh joo rip


Get oil down and the US economy will easily , easily take care of the rest. No question about it.

Get oil down to 40 $ and the housing crisis is a joke that will be over in a couple of weeks.

Get oil down and the fundamentals are VERY strong.

40$ oil means the Dow is 17,000 and the Nasdaq 5000.

Miracle Cure All.


I agree that energy is the most fundamental issue long-term. Opec has stated that they will cut production by as much as necessary to keep oil at over 70$ at least. They're not going to allow prices to go back down ever again. Drilling in Alaska will not be enough. Western governments need to start investing huge amounts of money in wind and solar energy and creating infrastructure to support plug-in hybrids and increase public transport. McCain/Palin really don't seem to grasp the necessity of this.


McCain will invest as much in alternative energy as Obama will.
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asylum seeker



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote:


McCain will invest as much in alternative energy as Obama will.


BS.

Quote:
Obama-
Calls for getting 10% of U.S. electricity from renewables by 2012, and 25% by 2025. Proposes investing $150 billion over 10 years in renewables, advanced biofuels, efficiency, and other clean tech, and says this will help create 5 million green jobs.

McCain-
Supports renewables, but has not offered specific targets.


http://www.alternativeenergy.com/group/politics/forum/topic/show?id=1066929%3ATopic%3A36973
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

asylum seeker wrote:
Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote:


McCain will invest as much in alternative energy as Obama will.


BS.

Quote:
Obama-
Calls for getting 10% of U.S. electricity from renewables by 2012, and 25% by 2025. Proposes investing $150 billion over 10 years in renewables, advanced biofuels, efficiency, and other clean tech, and says this will help create 5 million green jobs.

McCain-
Supports renewables, but has not offered specific targets.


http://www.alternativeenergy.com/group/politics/forum/topic/show?id=1066929%3ATopic%3A36973


Go to his web site.

McCain

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/McCain_invoking_India_vows_100_N-plants/articleshow/3146202.cms

Nuclear power is part of the solution.
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