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Al Franken's Senate Bid...
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Gopher



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Exactly, Kuros. His other "satire," "Rush Limbaugh Is a Big Fat Idiot," does the same, no? I think C. Chase has recently shed some light on Saturday Night Live and its writers' politics and conscious and deliberate use of "satire" to articulate them and influence public opinion.

So we apparently disagree here. I do not want this invective-spitting, mocking baboon who knows nothing else walking the Senate's halls. I am glad he has lost this bid.

Do you mean to express your acceptance of him as a serious politician? If so, what comes next? Sean Penn for SecState...?
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huffdaddy



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gopher wrote:
Exactly, Kuros. His other "satire," "Rush Limbaugh Is a Big Fat Idiot," does the same, no? I think C. Chase has recently shed some light on Saturday Night Live and its writers' politics and conscious and deliberate use of "satire" to articulate them and influence public opinion.


Satire to influence public opinion? Gasp! What will they think of next?

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So we apparently disagree here. I do not want this invective-spitting, mocking baboon who knows nothing else walking the Senate's halls. I am glad he has lost this bid.


Have you looked at where he stands on the issues? Maybe you don't agree with his stance, but he's far from a "know nothing" "baboon."

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Do you mean to express your acceptance of him as a serious politician? If so, what comes next? Sean Penn for SecState...?


Yeah, because entertainers have never had much success in politics.
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Gopher



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Huffdaddy: get my position right: I never called him "a know-nothing baboon." I called him "an invective-spitting, mocking baboon who knows nothing else [than invective-spitting and mocking, based on his publications and performance on television]."

In any case, looks to me as if he lost the race by approximately two-hundred votes. Close, but still a loss. And that would make him a defeated and now unemployed invective-spitting, mocking baboon who knows nothing else...
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huffdaddy



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gopher wrote:
Huffdaddy: get my position right: I never called him "a know-nothing baboon." I called him "an invective-spitting, mocking baboon who knows nothing else [than invective-spitting and mocking, based on his publications and performance on television]."


And Arnold Schwarzenegger is a cyborg from the future.
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Gopher



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who are you arguing against? Do you take me as one of the gubernator's supporters? Or J. Ventura's, for that matter? Speaking of Ventura, what a strange state Minn. is.
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huffdaddy



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gopher wrote:
Who are you arguing against?


Confusing entertainment with reality.
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Gopher



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Negative. No confusion. You are trying too hard to distance A. Franken from his books -- which do not represent "entertainment" but rather "junk," just like A. Coulter and the others who contribute to it from the other side.

I do not want these people in public office. Leave them in the mostly shallow and sensationalist print media and television, where I may simply ignore them, as I mostly do. Bar them from my govt, however. They do not belong there.
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huffdaddy



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gopher wrote:
Negative. No confusion. You are trying too hard to distance A. Franken from his books -- which do not represent "entertainment" but rather "junk," just like A. Coulter and the others who contribute to it from the other side.


Have you read any of his books?

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I do not want these people in public office. Leave them in the mostly shallow and sensationalist print media and television, where I may simply ignore them, as I mostly do. Bar them from my govt, however. They do not belong there.


How, um, democratic of you. Have you actually followed any of his political career, as opposed to his comedic and infotainment work?
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Gopher



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, you do not get to put me on the stand, Huffdaddy. Try again.

I have stated my views. Take them or leave them. And barring unforeseen developments in Minn., A. Franken still stands defeated and is out.
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ManintheMiddle



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Huffdaddy snidely remarked:

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Trying to highlight his Jewishness? Are you an anti-Semite?


Uh, gee, no I wasn't. I had in mind Shelly's character. Franken is a liberal media lab experiment. But do carry on in your search for red herrings to counter my points.

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Believe it or not, in this day and age, people move around. Kind of like how some people here get a new sock every few months. Calls of carpet bagger aren't quite as meaningful as when you were a boy.


Gee, Daddy, thanks for the demographic low-down. Rolling Eyes
Most of the socks in my drawer have holes in them, as in censored.

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Franken is a true progressive.


Yeah, sure he is. Hey, I thought Kool-Aid was only for the kids, Daddy.
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huffdaddy



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gopher wrote:
No, you do not get to put me on the stand, Huffdaddy. Try again.


I'll take that as a no.

I, for one, don't believe the politics is solely the domain of career politicians who have lived a calculated life to protect their image. Skewering someone for your perceptions of his previous career seems rather elitist to me. In other words, nothing less than what I'd expect from you.

But then again, you're not from Minnesota. So you're opinion is largely irrelevant in the matter at hand.
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ManintheMiddle



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

huffdaddy noted of Gopher:

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But then again, you're not from Minnesota. So you're opinion is largely irrelevant in the matter at hand.


Oh, I see. So we can presume that you are from the Land of Ten Thousand Lakes, Yogi Bear?
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huffdaddy



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ManintheMiddle wrote:
huffdaddy noted of Gopher:

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But then again, you're not from Minnesota. So you're opinion is largely irrelevant in the matter at hand.


Oh, I see. So we can presume that you are from the Land of Ten Thousand Lakes, Yogi Bear?


Yes, that's my current voting home.
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Big_Bird



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gopher wrote:
Exactly, Kuros. His other "satire," "Rush Limbaugh Is a Big Fat Idiot," does the same, no? I think C. Chase has recently shed some light on Saturday Night Live and its writers' politics and conscious and deliberate use of "satire" to articulate them and influence public opinion.

So we apparently disagree here. I do not want this invective-spitting, mocking baboon who knows nothing else walking the Senate's halls. I am glad he has lost this bid.

Do you mean to express your acceptance of him as a serious politician? If so, what comes next? Sean Penn for SecState...?


Why is Sean Penn for SecState any more ridiculous than Ronnie Reagan for President? Or Arnie for governer of a state that has the same population as Australia? Penn is a better actor than either of these guys put together. Perhaps he'd make a better leader too.
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Big_Bird



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gopher wrote:
Negative. No confusion. You are trying too hard to distance A. Franken from his books -- which do not represent "entertainment" but rather "junk," just like A. Coulter and the others who contribute to it from the other side.

I do not want these people in public office. Leave them in the mostly shallow and sensationalist print media and television, where I may simply ignore them, as I mostly do. Bar them from my govt, however. They do not belong there.


You sound like one of those 'Western Elitists,' mate. Who decided that entertainers are not supposed to have a political side?
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