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cruisemonkey
Joined: 04 Jul 2005
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 Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 7:24 pm Post subject: PS-Using sick days/unpaid leave will be 'held against' you. |
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In Gyeongsangnam-do, 5% of a public school GET's Overall Evaluation (yearly) is based on:
Attendance record - sick leave, unpaid leave, tardy
Just because something (sick leave, unpaid leave for death of a parent/child or to get married) is provided for in the contract does not mean there are no consequences to using it. |
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Otherside
Joined: 06 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 8:06 pm Post subject: |
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5%...wow!
Seriously though, how does it work? I'd imagine if you took 2 or so sick days a year it might cost you 1% Which isn't the end of the world. Even if you lose the whole 5% because you were regularly tardy, took all 15 sick days (being spotted at the beach once or twice) and had 3 parents die and took the compassionate leave, it is still only 5% and wouldn't make or break a halfway decent teacher.
There should also be some reward for having an excellent attendence record. |
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nomad-ish
Joined: 08 Oct 2007
Location: On the bottom of the food chain
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| Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 8:17 pm Post subject: Re: PS-Using sick days/unpaid leave will be 'held against' y |
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| cruisemonkey wrote: |
| GET's Overall Evaluation (yearly) |
never heard of it |
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Jeff's Cigarettes
Joined: 27 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 8:23 pm Post subject: |
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Personally, I work for GEPIK and in my 4th contact at the same school and have yet to take a sick day. Probably cause I teach the after school program as well. Simple fact is...if you take sick days you won't be respected. Up to you...  |
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cruisemonkey
Joined: 04 Jul 2005
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| Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, I agree 5% for sick days, unpaid leave and tardness (combined) is not going to have much of an effect either way on a half decent teacher.
However, unlike back home, taking sick days does have consequences - and there's no shop steward. |
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Xuanzang
Joined: 10 Apr 2007
Location: Sadang
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| Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 9:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Yeah attendance does count for something in Seoul as well. However, most schools would rather keep their decent teacher than get bent over a few sick days. If the kids and staff like the teacher then I`m sure the principal has the authority to over ride any stipulation. |
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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 9:46 pm Post subject: Re: PS-Using sick days/unpaid leave will be 'held against' y |
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| nomad-ish wrote: |
| cruisemonkey wrote: |
| GET's Overall Evaluation (yearly) |
never heard of it |
Neither have I. My annual evaluation consists of whether the principal wants me to stay on for another year. |
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Ramen
Joined: 15 Apr 2008
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| Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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| That's BS. I took 12 days of SL and they still begged me to resign. |
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nomad-ish
Joined: 08 Oct 2007
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| Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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| ^ that's just it. i took my fair share of sick leave last year and i still was asked to renew a couple of times. |
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Cornfed
Joined: 14 Mar 2008
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| Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 10:24 pm Post subject: Re: PS-Using sick days/unpaid leave will be 'held against' y |
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| Yu_Bum_suk wrote: |
| nomad-ish wrote: |
| cruisemonkey wrote: |
| GET's Overall Evaluation (yearly) |
never heard of it |
Neither have I. My annual evaluation consists of whether the principal wants me to stay on for another year. |
Yeah, just what is this "overall evaluation" you speak of? I thought pay was determined on an objective fixed scale and the principal would whimisically decide to renue your contract or not based on his own preferences. |
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marlow
Joined: 06 Feb 2005
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| Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 10:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Jeff's Cigarettes wrote: |
| Simple fact is...if you take sick days you won't be respected. Up to you... |
When respect equals hefty yearly pay raises sign me up for the no sick day contest. |
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bobranger
Joined: 10 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 11:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Attendence is considered for most jobs. |
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marlow
Joined: 06 Feb 2005
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| Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 11:21 pm Post subject: |
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| bobranger wrote: |
| Attendence is considered for most jobs. |
I'd prefer working somewhere that appreciates it is better for me to use a contractual sick day rather than coming to work sick as a dog and being a "team player". |
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Otherside
Joined: 06 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 11:29 pm Post subject: |
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| marlow wrote: |
| bobranger wrote: |
| Attendence is considered for most jobs. |
I'd prefer working somewhere that appreciates it is better for me to use a contractual sick day rather than coming to work sick as a dog and being a "team player". |
Marlow, you are in the wrong country then. |
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Jeff's Cigarettes
Joined: 27 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 11:40 pm Post subject: |
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| marlow wrote: |
| Jeff's Cigarettes wrote: |
| Simple fact is...if you take sick days you won't be respected. Up to you... |
When respect equals hefty yearly pay raises sign me up for the no sick day contest. |
Taking unnecessary sick days because you feel u aren't being compensated enough is childish, IMHO. I get a 100,000 bump every year even though I'm already making between 4 ~ 5 mill per month. |
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