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Pulling a Runner: "To pull or not to pull?"
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Mike S.



Joined: 18 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 8:12 pm    Post subject: Pulling a Runner: "To pull or not to pull?" Reply with quote

If I "pull a runner" the day after I get paid, at least I got paid.

If I give a month's notice will they be nice and pay me everything they

owe me and or rip me off for a months pay and I'll have taught for them

for a month for free? What do you think?


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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

98% of the time you simply *cannot* leave a hagwon mid-contract on polite terms. If you don't want to work in Korea again, run. It's just the nature of the beast.
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polonius



Joined: 05 Jun 2004

PostPosted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I say give the notice you signed your name to. If you signed a contract that says you will give 30 days notice, then that's what I would give.
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Mike S.



Joined: 18 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 8:27 pm    Post subject: If you really think so. Reply with quote

If you really think so.

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Mike S.



Joined: 18 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 8:30 pm    Post subject: Thanks for your advice. Reply with quote

Thanks for your advice.

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polonius



Joined: 05 Jun 2004

PostPosted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are the best person to answer whether they will rip you off or not. We have no background knowledge of where you work. Have they demonstrated qualities that would lead you to believe they would not pay you? Do they appear to have been honorable so far?

If anyone gives me 30 days notice, I always pay them what they are owed.
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Illysook



Joined: 30 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've heard that a good recruiter can negotiate with your school and help you change jobs without a lot of animosity. True?
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soviet_man



Joined: 23 Apr 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 12:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't see it as an ethical responsibility issue.

The deciding factor is whether you want to still work in Korea in the future.

If the answer is no, then you have nothing to lose by running if you think your situation is serious enough to warrant that.

But if you do want to work in Korea again, it becomes a much more complex assessment you have to make - as fleeing would jeopardise a future visa from being issued anytime soon.
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Draz



Joined: 27 Jun 2007
Location: Land of Morning Clam

PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 6:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like he is at a public school.
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wylies99



Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!

PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 6:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Illysook wrote:
I've heard that a good recruiter can negotiate with your school and help you change jobs without a lot of animosity. True?


Uh, if you can trust a recruiter that much, then why did that recruiter place you in a bad school in the first place?
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yingwenlaoshi



Joined: 12 Feb 2007
Location: ... location, location!

PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 8:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wylies99 wrote:
Illysook wrote:
I've heard that a good recruiter can negotiate with your school and help you change jobs without a lot of animosity. True?


Uh, if you can trust a recruiter that much, then why did that recruiter place you in a bad school in the first place?


And if it's a bad place to work...
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Tobias



Joined: 02 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 5:32 pm    Post subject: Did a runner Reply with quote

I did a runner from a lying hogwart owner after 5 days and was working again here about 18 months later. I could have come back to another job 18 DAYS later if I would have wanted. I probably would have had to pay for a plane ticket, but I would have been working.
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TheChickenLover



Joined: 17 Dec 2007
Location: The Chicken Coop

PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you provide proper notice, there is a high chance that you will not receive your full salary due to 'unforseen expenses and punishments' that will be imposed on you due to your 'burdeoning' expenses that force your employer to seek a replacement.

It's very common for a person to give notice and after 1 month end up receiving nothing after airfare, recruitment fees & other misc expenses are tallied against you. It doesn't matter if it's rational or not, when people are angry they make arbitrary decisions which will make them feel better, and leaves you in a nearly impossible situation.

My suggestion is simple, receive your full pay and give notice that you are leaving. If he wishes you to stay, you will require your salary paid on a daily basis instead of at the end of the month. If he refuses, simply go home, pack up your things & leave. You can easily find work (even though there is a huge unemployment in the world market) easily enough within a few weeks time.

Remember, you boss is looking out for HIS interests as you are for yours. The moment they are no longer mutually beneficial, you will be let go regardless of how much you worked for him.

Chicken
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Bread



Joined: 09 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 8:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Did a runner Reply with quote

Tobias wrote:
I did a runner from a lying hogwart owner after 5 days


Come on now, Dumbledore isn't that bad of a guy.
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Ramen



Joined: 15 Apr 2008

PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're thinking about doing a runner, don't hesitate. Run!!!
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