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Liberals, How Do You Like Your New Messiah Now?!?
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seosan08



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 5:49 pm    Post subject: Liberals, How Do You Like Your New Messiah Now?!? Reply with quote
Liberals voice concerns about Obama
Carol E. Lee, Nia-Malika Henderson Carol E. Lee, Nia-malika Henderson
Dec 8, 2008

http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20081208/pl_politico/16292

Liberals are growing increasingly nervous � and some just flat-out angry � that President-elect Barack Obama seems to be stiffing them on Cabinet jobs and policy choices.

Obama has reversed pledges to immediately repeal tax cuts for the wealthy and take on Big Oil. He�s hedged his call for a quick drawdown in Iraq. And he�s stocking his White House with anything but stalwarts of the left.

Now some are shedding a reluctance to puncture the liberal euphoria at being rid of President George W. Bush to say, in effect, that the new boss looks like the old boss.

�He has confirmed what our suspicions were by surrounding himself with a centrist to right cabinet. But we do hope that before it's all over we can get at least one authentic progressive appointment,� said Tim Carpenter, national director of the Progressive Democrats of America.

OpenLeft blogger Chris Bowers went so far as to issue this plaintive plea: �Isn't there ever a point when we can get an actual Democratic administration.............

http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20081208/pl_politico/16292
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Perceptioncheck



Joined: 13 Oct 2008
PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Shocked This is CLEARLY because of the homosexual global elite.


Oh, hang on. . .
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canuckistan
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Joined: 17 Jun 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Johnny Carson singing with the Rat Pack!:

http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=VPH0-g25Vl8
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Gopher



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
OpenLeft blogger Chris Bowers wrote:
Isn't there ever a point when we can get an actual Democratic administration...?


First he is "not Gandhi." Now he is not even "a Democrat."

Beautiful. And as predictable as clockwork, too...
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Kimbop



Joined: 31 Mar 2008
PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Obama's keeping Robert Gates around. Obama's VP and Sec of State are Iraq war supporters. And Obama's keeping the Bush tax cuts. But I especially like his fancy "office of the President-elect" placards on his podium when he talks on the news. Makes him look super official!
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Tiger Beer



Joined: 07 Feb 2003
PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
What the hell is a 'liberal' anyways? Can someone define one in a very CONSISTENT nature?

I know the definition, but the word is thrown around way too much as a catch-all.

During Bush's 8 years, it basically meant anyone who didn't agree with Bush 100%.

In this post, it seems to have a very narrow definition, like 'far, far left'.
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BS.Dos.



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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What the hell is a 'liberal' anyways


Fundamentally? Well, liberalism rather than liberal per se, which is much harder to define as it is shaped by our own individual, historic and cultural values etc, is the subscription to the idea of rule by rules rather than rule by men (socialism, conservatism). Put another way, the contraction of state institutions (men) and the expansion of market forces (rules) through which individuals can achieve their aims.

However, given the state of the US/global economy at the moment, it makes sense that Obama sees state intervention as being the best means through which to sort out some of the problems. I'll leave it to you to decide whether this is the best approach or not.
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bangbayed



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
seosan, are you sure it isn't just the "evil homosexual conspiracy" that's angry with him? Wink
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mises



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Every left of center America I know is happy as a pig in shit with Obama. They love him. Even the right wing people I know are excited. He is actually treating his job seriously and makes it obvious. Sure, you're going to have some imprudent moveon types that want utopia now but screw them.
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caniff



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
mises wrote:
Every left of center America I know is happy as a pig in shit with Obama. They love him. Even the right wing people I know are excited. He is actually treating his job seriously and makes it obvious. Sure, you're going to have some imprudent moveon types that want utopia now but screw them.


Exactly. This is the way-far-out-(man)-in-left-field crowd throwing a hissy because Obama didn't appoint Wavy Gravy to a high-ranking cabinet position.
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